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Please stop reporting all OF models as spam. If a post is off-topic, report is as off-topic. If community rules forbid OF models from posting, report that. If a user is flooding a sub with multiple posts a day in a row, that's a legit report as well.

Otherwise a post by an OF model is not in and of itself spam, even if it is made by a female with the temerity to control her own sexuality.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Definitely. I think everyone is just trigger happy from the cesspool that so many NSFW subs on reddit became. To me there were two problems.

The first one was just actual spam. Same pictures posted to every sub possible, multiple times a day, all with generic bullshit titles and the same type of "engagement". That doesn't seem to be a problem yet, and is a simple one to solve.

The second, more subjective one is that OF content is just...bad. The same type of pictures, the same videos, all just not appealing. What happened to camgirls? What happened the actual realism of amateur content? That is subjective though, I don't think you can moderate quality besides upvoting/downvoting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Are they linking to their profile? If so that's a defacto ad.

If I want OF content, I'll go to OF.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I made a clickable list of sellers, if you wish to block them: [email protected]

It's only like 100 for now, so doable by hand. For now, it includes some other types of sellers that you can skip, of course.

This way there is no need to argue, or to harass mods with false reports. Keep in mind that they do this work voluntarily.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Refer to above list for quality content 😅🫶

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

IDK sounds like spam to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It is most definitely spam. Only fans should be banned from the Internet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I wouldn't go that far as to say it needs to be banned from the internet. That's not at all what I'm saying. I'm just tired of every other post being someone try to sell me something. And by every other post I'm talking about reddit. I just don't what what happened over there to happen here. Like, OF creators, just be realistic in what you post. One or two here or there is one thing. But some bots just spam all the communities like a dog in heat. But also feel this is more on the OF creators to police there own and point out the bad actors that are bot or spamming unrelated community. I don't there will be one solution that makes everyone happy. I'm just asking to keep the spamming down. I really don't care if you're an OF creator, more power to you. But I'm not buying so to me it just looks a bit desperate to try drumming up business in this way. If you were selling well enough already, you wouldn't feel the need to be advertising yourself on Reddit or Lemmy.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The anti-OF posters sound exceedingly hyperbolic. I'm certain there's a reasonable way to ensure OF/ManyVids/Fansly models are encouraged to post free content here without it consuming the entire site.

But posters demanding that all OF models be banned entirely sound hella unreasonable.

Go make your own community and ban OF models from it

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Naw, the site would be better off simply banning only fans. Go to Reddit if you want ads.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There is a huge difference between inconsiderate spammers, and adult performers linking to their work.

We all hate the blatant spam on Reddit, but spam is not a unique problem, and it was not invented during the rise of adult content creation. That's why we have moderation. Know what makes moderation even harder? Abusing the moderation system.

Look, we have an opportunity here to create an active and ethical community of real people who love porn, and SUPPORT the people who create the thing we love.

Even if you never intend to pay for your porn, creators give away TONS of free material, and want to interact and build community here for free.

If you push out creators from every corner of the internet besides behind a paywall, what do you think will be left? I'll tell you: the 1% of people who are not interested in monetizing their content, and a bunch of stolen shit (for as long as it lasts, until LemmyNSFW gets hit with DMCA takedowns left and right.)

If we went that route, and the site becomes swamped with copyright takedowns, admins here could decide ONLY OC is allowed to be posted, and then yall will have that 1% of people who don't monetize to choose from. So, you can say goodbye to variety, and goodbye to finding someone who fulfills your particular fetish.

Is that the community you want to build? Sounds pretty oppressive to me.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Very well said. Talented OC creators (including sellers) are always welcomed at communities I moderate here (and on Reddit).

And I gladly nuke spam (very well defined by @[email protected] in comment ) and spammers (OC or not). Hoping we get better moderation tools and support soon here on Lemmy

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Fuck off - I'M HERE FOR PORN NOT ONLYFANS ADVERTISEMENTS.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Aw man, I'm just an exhibitionist that loves showing off and talking to friendly strangers on the internet, and you guys have been so nice 🙁 I paywall some stuff so I can make a little back to justify buying cute outfits lol, but I totally get the frustration with spamming and agree it ruined reddit. Of course I will respect if a community decides I'm no longer welcome, however I will point out that almost all of the top posts on gonewild here are OF models - so a lot of valuable and appreciated content would be lost. Perhaps significantly reducing the allowable posting frequency in the future once there is more content here (e.g 1x post per sub per user per week) would increase posting quality and relevance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Reducing posting frequency is a great solution.

I think only once per week is a bit extreme, but something like, once per sub per day, and cannot share the same photo in the same sub again until somewhere between 1-6 months have passed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

When you assume everybody of a certain community is the same way, it's called discrimination.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I COULD say lemmings are entitled broke losers but it’s not accurate. Many of you are kind gentleman (and other genders but my fan base is mostly cos heterosexual men)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

replace this with a statement on black people then go look in a mirror and rethink your life. (Not the having an OF, there's nothing wrong with sex work. I mean the bigotry and calls about being discriminated against for not getting free ad space)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What if an OF model posts off-topic content? For example, boob pics to an ass-centric community? To me, that's just lazy advertising, tantamount to spam, and should therefore be reported.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

yeah, that has nothing to do with her OF and is because she is posting out of topic

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Are you referring to a specific model?

I was not. I just noticed that some "niche" NSFW communities have, what I consider, lazy (as in OP didn't bother checking the community's theme/topic) ad posts to their OF.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Final comment about this because I wanna get off this topic as I’m getting triggered. I’m an exhibitionist AND I need to pay my bills. Idk why I wouldn’t combine those 2 things? I love what I do. I love posting nudes! I love talking to people online. Why wouldnt I try to do that as my job if I love it? The only people that will be seeing my link are the people that click on my profile and find it for themselves. Have a good day everyone 😂😛

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I think it's fair for people to be upset when there's spam on the site. But, we've so far had issues with only actual spam but not really any true spam from OF models. It seems so far that content creators have been extra careful on that end. Like, as long as the links are in the body or comments in most communities it is more than fine and thats generally whats been going on currently as far I can see. Sex workers need to make money too and getting instant mass reports on OF models for daring to want to make money off their content they are graciously providing to us for free as a community is downright absurd and deeply annoying to have to sift thru. I can get outright exhibitionist communities, but those need to be clear about such imo.

Honestly whether people want to admit it or not, we need content creators for this community to thrive and grow. If it becomes any issue in the future then a conversation will be had, but there really isn't any issue at the moment.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Report and delete all OF models. They bring nothing of value

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (3 children)

If OF takes a hold of Lemmy like it did Reddit I’ll just defederate from Lemmy all together. Nobody has time for 50 identical posts from the same user only to finish with that user’s posts just in time to pick up another OF user’s 50 identical posts. OF and their repost bot Army ruined entire communities on reddit and they for sure will do the same here if allowed.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

"Do older guys even like 18yo girls? Teeheehee"

"My boyfriend made fun of my boobs and says I need implants! Teeheehee"

"Be honest. Would you smash an 18yo virgin??"

Lifts top does a small wiggle "see more on my OF" *posts to 30 other communities"

I'm not mad about it. Y'all should make money on it if you can, but most of this shit is the same and ruined porn on Reddit. I'm sure there's some that are really into the exhibition of it, and that rocks, but It'll ruin porn here too.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I block all identified OF users. All they do is post UNRELATED items to the community theme. Like what they did on reddit.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

If spam crossposting becomes an issue, we will address it. The reports we are referring to here are mainly against people who are daring to just post links in the body or comments to their OF. It's not mass crossposting.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

but that's why people are mad about it. Give them an inch and they take a mile. You don't wait for the cancer to take hold. You see it, and you treat it as fast as possible.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Can you point out examples where this is happening? Because the mods and admins are unaware.

Otherwise it sounds you're suggesting killing healthy cells before they have the chance to become cancer cells, which doesn't seem like great medical advice. (as far as I know. I'm not a doctor.)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Man if this is the official stance for this sub I'm fucking out. Y'all enjoy your fucking thirst trap ads lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

But who cares if it's technically an ad? You still get the porn content you previously wouldn't get. No one's forcing you to pay for the extra stuff.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'll fap to many things, but 20 identical posts with stupid questions as title because it drives engagement, posted in random subs that it doesn't even remotely fit in, I won't fap to! I have my dignity!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

First because it's annoying. I sub to things for content, not links to "better content" behind a pay wall.

If I wanted that I'd just go get on OF and never come to places like this.

Second, it's disingenuous. I just reported another post as an example as to why it's bad for content. If they can scrape OF subscribers off of here, why would they reveal anything for free? Post a pretty face pic and throw their OF link in so you go spend there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Some of us are exhibitionists AND like money lol

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

And you can do both where they belong. It's advertising, spam, whatever you want to call it.

This isn't a paid service or subscription platform. If I want to seek you out to give you money I'll do that, but I'm not here for it and it should have its own sub dedicated to that type of content.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Why would I post nudes on a spammy OF community? You’re saying I should be excluded from every community besides that kind just because I have a Fansly.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I'm saying if you so choose, please by all means share wherever you want that don't break any rules.

My understanding of these kinds of communities is that they are for voyeur, amateur posts. The advent of places like OF has muddied that intent.

Do I think you should not be able to post here with some kind of third party paid service link? Absolutely.

And if the admins decide that it is allowed? Cool man great you all, have fun. I'll leave though, because I don't like it. There are plenty of places on the internet to get this kind of content and I won't subject myself to spam links to see some boobs in my feed as I scroll through this place.

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