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With surveys reporting that an increasing number of young men are subscribing to these beliefs, the number of women finding that their partners share the misogynistic views espoused by the likes of Andrew Tate is also on the rise. Research from anti-fascism organisation Hope Not Hate, which polled about 2,000 people across the UK aged 16 to 24, discovered that 41% of young men support Tate versus just 12% of young women.

“Numbers are growing, with wives worried about their husbands and partners becoming radicalised,” says Nigel Bromage, a reformed neo-Nazi who is now the director of Exit Hate Trust, a charity that helps people who want to leave the far right.

“Wives or partners become really worried about the impact on their family, especially those with young children, as they fear they will be influenced by extremism and racism.”

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

i think if your husband has weird ideas about women you're supposed to argue with him or something

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Ideally, you have these "arguments" well ahead of time before you marry someone who has fucked up attitudes about anyone, anywhere.

People can absolutely change and "wake up" to realize that the shit they're holding onto is going to cost them their future and they will absolutely change for the better when they care for someone else and want a better future. But not everyone is willing or capable of self-examination, and many are also not willing or capable of making changes.

Find out before you both have your names on a mortgage or carton of eggs together.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

The article illustrate the Hypergamy concept. The men in that case might feel inadequacy after leaving the traditional role of breadwinner, which caused cognitive dissonance in his leftist views and make him vulnerable to the propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

witch caused cognitive dissonance

Ahhh it was the witches all along

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Before we rush to judgment about witches. We really should test them to make sure that they are witches.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Ooh maybe some sort of test in the water?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

YES! A swimsuit competition!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (2 children)

We have to see if the witches float!

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[–] [email protected] 48 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Toxic masculinity, feeding itself, empowered by the forces of capital who desires culture war above class war.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (11 children)

I love just saying "toxic masculinity" anywhere online, even if you're deep in the bowels of Lemmy, you will get a few reactionary turds who just see the term and lose all cognitive ability to think and mash the downvote button between heated breaths and tears streaming down their faces.

edit: and it continues, very predictable. Seriously guys, just be honest if the term makes you feel shit, you will find truth by pursuing those feelings and the questions around them, literally you will figure out why you're actually unhappy. Don't pull back, push through. Yes, I am provoking, and if it's provocation that has an effect on you, that's a HUGE sign that you can figure out a big truth about yourself and the world if you spend like, 30 minutes in uncomfortable silence asking yourself "why" about things and being painfully honest in your replies until you hit bedrock.

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 days ago

Isn't tate already old news for the manosphere?

[–] [email protected] 21 points 3 days ago (3 children)

To answer the headline: divorce, I hope.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Divorce is in many case the trigger. The MGTOW-community was/is a lot of divorced men who feel mistreated by society, and blame women for it.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (5 children)

I remember being excited and thinking maybe I had found my people when I first heard about MGTOW thinking it would be dudes who realized maybe dating wasn't for them and instead were just focusing on improving themselves. Then I looked at their subreddit and no, just a shitton of misogyny.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Self improvement is a trap and misogyny is the scapegoat. "I have a nice car/house/job/makes lots of money now but still women won't fuck me, they must be evil!". It's always all about becoming some übermensh but never about finding a social context, which is what these men actually need.

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago (3 children)

That’s the worst part of MGTOW. It’s a nice premise, and then they just dumped toxic waste on it.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

When economic independence is rare, divorce is rare.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I guess getting rid of no fault divorces helps that too

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[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 days ago (4 children)

Im in a bubble where these guys are like the most laughable parody of themselves so maybe I'm biased but... I mean nobody is taking this kind of stuff serious right? I mean cool, free speech and such but dumb behavior had consequences, right?

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (6 children)

People absolutely take this stuff seriously. The problem is the most bone headed guys are the ones likely to fall for this stuff. Once they're sucked in it's hard to convince them otherwise.

It’s easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

there was plenty of warning signs for Years, even before the pandemic. if you look at how pickup artist operate, and then go on youtube. Tate isnt even a new phenemon, hes a culmination of the above problems. hes just the latest symptom, as was JOE ROGAN.

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[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Hmm. Follow the money people!

This seems like a ploy by therapists and divorce lawyers! Who else has to gain by this level of stupidity?

I mean i guess gene stealer cultist...But besdies them!

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