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Hungary’s interior ministry claimed the deal would improve safety in tourist hotspots or during events that attract large numbers of spectators.

But the plan has drawn criticism from those concerned the agreement will be abused by communist China, which has a lengthy record of human rights abuses.

The patrols could be the first step to establishing secret police stations or used to intimidate the overseas Chinese community, they warned.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

China should be completely isolated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Baffling. I read the article but wondering if some kind of rationalization is outlined somewhere else.

Police represent the authority of the state and have a monopoly on violence. They only "earn" that monopoly because ostensibly they have been authorized democratically by the people. (Much more could be said about that) Chinese police in Hungary do not represent Hungarian people and so they should not be in any kind of position of authority.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

"They only "earn" that monopoly because ostensibly they have been authorized democratically by the people."

Well, that might be the social framework fir a democracy. But we are talking about Hungary here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You mean the guy who was just in Mar-A-Lago?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Sketchy af, but my opinion will depend alot on what exactly will be done.

In certain places in Germany (e.g. Nürnberg train station) the US military police is patrolling (or used to patrol) together with regular German police, because there have been incidents in the past of US army personnel not listening to german police.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What a weird solution to a foreign power soldiers not obeying local law enforcement. Just lock them up, or let the German soldiers handle it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Seems pretty elegant to me. Don’t U.S. troops have a whole bunch of additional military laws? This way local police don’t need to learn all of that nonsense and the U.S. military get to hold their people to that higher standard while also helping each other out. Probably cheaper and better results for both?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

In this particular case it was less about higher standards and more about not listening to local law enforcement.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Are there incidents of overseas Chinese not listening to the Hungarian police? If not, what's the justification here?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Are they like fining Chinese tourist there or what are they supposed to do? Ignoring the fact that foreign police has no say on Hungarian soil.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How many foreign police offices does China allow within its borders?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Minus eleven

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)
  1. WTF?!
  2. I thought China denied that there are any Chinese "police" stations in Europe?

I hope the EU permanently cuts Hungary's funding and takes away their voting rights now. This fascist shit in the middle of Europe has to stop.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

230,000 Chinese "persuaded to return" from abroad, China to establish Extraterritoriality


(Sep 2022)

A new law adopted 2 September, going into effect 1 December, establishes full extraterritoriality over Chinese and foreigners globally for certain crimes (fraud, telecom fraud, online scams, etc.)

A follow-up to this investigation with additional information, 'Patrol and Persuade', has been released in Dec 2022, and again in Nov 2023, 'China's Consular Volunteers.'

There are lot of other reports across the web, e.g., for Netherlands, the U.S., and many others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I thought China denied that there are any Chinese "police" stations in Europe?

They deny all sorts of things:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/dec/05/italy-home-11-unofficial-chinese-police-stations-world

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I wish kicking out Orbán would become a topic in the election this year

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh my god im so fucking lucky i moved away from that shithole. Sadly my sister goes to school there and my grandmother still lives there.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Isn’t Hungary and Orban the guy that always talks about how dangerous western countries have become due to liberal/progressive laws while their conservative approach is keeping crime low? So do they have low crime and no need, high crime and a need for support, or low crime but with no sustainable way to keep policing at that level?

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