I have been visiting hexbear recently. I have discovered that there is a great deal of content there that is important to me and that I have been "protected" from. It's clearly a legitimate instance with a dedicated administration team. The Lemmiverse is moving fast and changing dramatically. Would @[email protected], @[email protected], et al consider reviewing this decision now that it is about a year later?
this post was submitted on 15 Aug 2023
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Always open to reconsidering things. Can you give some examples of the content you're missing?
Tbh when I go look at their local feed it just seems like all shitposts
For example, c/food is the best general population food forum I've ever seen for my particular needs. A lot of the non-vegan parts of the site is not just tolerant but considerate to vegans. That's frigging unheard of. I don't know what the big deal with shit posters is, but that is hardly the only or defining feature of the culture.
I feel like if you wade into a community you're not a member of and don't understand looking for shit posts, a lot of things are going to look like shit posts.
Thanks for the input! Discussing it with the other admins.
There's always the far better-behaved Lemmygrad for those who want a more diverse prospective without the toxicity that hexbear brings.
What's wrong with hating landlords?
No calls for violence seems like a simple rule. And not every landlord is greedy mcshitstain with 50 properties, many of them are a single family with their starter home rented out, or a couple renting out their extra room.
Communists don't care for that distinction, they believe all landlords (even non-exploitative ones like you mentioned) are inherrently exploitative and therefore deserving of death. Yes, this applies to you even if you just rent out a room, but don't worry, money won't exist and everything will be free!
Calling for execution of anyone seems a bit extreme to me.
Gotta start somewhere.
Probably not by whipping out the guillotine. There's a few reasonable steps before that.
This is why our rights are constantly being eroded.
Good work! Thank you. Hexbear users are trolls. Theyβre not in it for discussion in good faith. Iβve blocked a few offenders here and there but honestly I think the culture there is so toxic that weβre better off not being federated with them.
100% agree that they are trolls. They flood any China news posts (that's not on lemmy.world) with a truckload of pro-China comments, taking advantage of the fact that a sizeable portion of Lemmy users won't be able to see and downvote them. Whenever someone replies to them with well-thought-out arguments supporting "the western authoritarians," half of them replies with huge and ugly emojis, while the other half parrots more Chinese propaganda (that actually sound well-written if you disregard the fact that China is an oppressive regime).
This seems like it could have been solved at the instance level by banning some emojis... So I guess I'm confused?
I still don't agree with censoring political views that we disagree with. It's a slippery slope, especially when these are REAL people that DO exist. They deserve to have their voice heard, even if it's so they can be shit on.
Edit: is there no way to block individual users without defederation? It sounds like taking the nuclear option against a few bad actors. We should want to have our worldview challenged since that's a core component of democracy.
views that we disagree with
a few bad actors
Please stop with all those disingenous takes. OP makes it quite clear that it was not based on differences in viewpoint but toxic and trolling behaviour. And it is not "a few bad actors" from that instance behaving in such a way, it is everyone, since that is their publicly stated main purpose for existing.
Their community policy is explicitly against the actions described in this post.
Blatant indifference to their own community policies is an excellent reason to defederate.
I noticed a few of them posting Russian propaganda the other day. Nothing of value was lost.
They absolutely do. They are freaks of nature.
Essentially communists who support the war crimes committed in Ukriane and the idea of Russian imperialism since it somehow in their twisted little minds equates to a Soviet Union born again.
Wrap your head around that.
I still just don't understand why they defend Russia or China, I don't think there's a single state mechanism you can point to that's truly functionally communistic.
I'm all for differing viewpoints but they were just trolls.
I browsed a bit there. All I saw was trolls planning to troll. They won't be missed.
Federation is working.
Until they decide to 'raid' instances and start their circus again.
Oh, they already are raiding and brigading. Take a look at any post remotely mentioning China, Russia or Ukraine on lemmy.ml or any other instance still federated with them. 90% of the comments will be Hexbear users trolling, harassing people or spreading disinformation, shutting out any real discussion.
I hope the admins on those raided instances are more effective than the admins on hexbear were.