For context: I habe a PC with an 8gb SSD and I somehow need to get an app on there that only has a flatpak release
Why the hell do you only have 8GB? Are you trying to install flatpaks on a smart fridge?
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I'm coming back to Linux after a hiatus. I've spent most of my time with the Debian flavors. Not afraid of the command line, but not an expert either.
I'm trying out Bluefin right now, semi-immutable atomic os based on silverblue, based on Fedora.
On normal installs, I usually change and install enough stuff, that when it comes time to upgrade to the next os version, I'm sometimes not able to without introducing instability or it outright falling. The former more common than the latter.
Let's just say I got used to reinstalling and starting from scratch, especially if I experimented too hard and broke something big like my DE or drivers.
So with bluefin I'm hoping to leave everything that's core, alone. I'm trying to rely on flatpaks, app images, and distrobox for everything else.
So far so successful. I've only got a couple minor gripes, some limitations of flatpaks. But I've also only been at it for like a week, so we'll see.
I guess my point is, flatpaks have a place π€·ββοΈ
This is where I'm at too. If I go crazy and start installing stuff natively to experiment I end up with extra stuff auto configured that's no longer needed and random problems I'm too lazy to figure out how to solve. Flatpak doesn't do that and I don't have to worry about that. I can install random stuff to play with and uninstall it cleanly. Some packages need more system access than flatpak gives natively and with those I'll make the decision of if I want to set it up and tear it down manually or not.
Storage is cheap, my time not so much.
Cut the crap. Flatpak uses hardlink from repo where file names are jash of the file itself. The chance of duplication is exactly same as that of duplicate files of same name in same directory.
Flatpak repo grows because we trade uncertainty over abi stability with installing all needed versions of libraries. For abi incompatible builds you could already do that in many distros (versioned soname) but to a lesser extent.
Also I usually do not install nvidia GL with flatpaks that I won't run on nvidia on hybrid gpu laptops anyway for energy reasons.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of flatpak for my usage, but this isn't a great argument against it.
I'd rather someone "only" release on flatpak if that's the simplest way they can support Linux compared to no support at all.
I see DLL Hell is still going strong...
But itβs a delta.
Everyone brazenly saying Flatpak is the best install package management system has stockholm syndrome.
I miss the days when packages were only available as deb or tar.gz
Edit: /s
I don't : )
Me neither, I really like the usability of flatpak
It is the best one for people that don't know a lot about linux. Many people are at a loss when they read basic errors like fatal error: <header>.h: No such file or directory or ld: cannot find -l<library>. Flatpak solves a lot of that by specifically including all of it in the installation.
So ye, for non-power users, flatpak is the best package manager. It also has only one downside, which is the increased storage requirement for apps as they have to bring all of their dependencies themselves, which is okay these days as storage isn't that expensive anymore.
And everything is better than fucking snap if we're honest for a second.
I really don't understand the flatpak hate. Stuff doesn't magically work across distros, and app devs don't usually want to debug every major one. If you're running linux on a thinkpad from 2004, sure, it wouldn't be the best but most people can probably afford the overhead.
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flatpak install/update <package name> --no-related
there problem solved
Build it from source them.
8GB SSD
Thereβs your problem. The last time 8GB was plenty was in 1998.
Even cheap SD cards are larger these days. The smallest SSD you can buy in the UK right now is 250GB.
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Yeah flatpak won't work on my Nokia 3310 either, what a shit software...
Edit: if you upvoted this comment, your kneecaps pop when you pick up things from the ground
I'm too old to pick up stuff from the ground, I use one of them claws on a stick. Also, the 3210 was a nice phone while the 3310 was for the hip kids.
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Storage is cheap, I don't care at all as long as I can easily install it without having to go online to search for missing dependencies in the correct version.
My only problem with Flatpak was when I tried to install an IDE and made it use Podman or Docker and the container thingy caused problems.
"x is cheap" is not the greatest take imo. it's cheap until you just so happen to not be able to afford it. what now? better give me an income for the price in storage. not talking about flatpak specifically.
This. Any many laptops use eMMC, meaning that you can't just increase the OS storage.
Or alternatively... crzyshrtct was not found on your host, but is required, daddy. Please install it to be able to use the software.