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    In all seriousness it's very exciting, I just don't need to see the same information worded 20 different ways from random clickbait sites lol

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    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    I'm just waiting for windows 12. If reports are to be believed, it's going to be a subscription cloud OS, probably with a thin client. If they really go through with that, then I can imagine linux gaining some ground in 2026 when windows 11 hits EOL.

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    [–] [email protected] 10 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Windows 11 EOL in 2 years?

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    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    Contrary to the idea that most of these new users come from steam decks, I've had 3 of my friends switch to or at least partially use linux. We are certainly growing.

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    [–] [email protected] 16 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    We finally hopped ship this year. Some small bs antifeature finally pissed us off enough to (gasp) learn something new and now I can't find my way out of Vim.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago

    Did you try to alt+F4 ? I want to jump ship too, next computer will have an AMD graphic card. I only have Nvidia ones and it crash games on Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago

    Upvote for Jimmy Neutron meme

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

    Damn, a lot of people bought Steam Decks.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago

    The combined number of years of my marriage and the ages of all of my children is a number that when subtracted from 2024 would not equal the first time I heard this.

    [–] [email protected] 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    every year since 2022 is the year of the Linux desktop. get used to it nerd

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 10 months ago

    Every year since 1993 is the year is the Linux desktop 😎

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    You'll lose your shit when it hits 5%

    [–] [email protected] 11 points 10 months ago

    Unironically, yes. That'll be a huge milestone. It'll probably happen pretty soon, too, with the way Linux adoption seems to be accelerating.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)
    [–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    this may happen because of chromebook's increasing marketshare

    obviously not 10% but 6-7% seems possible

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    i think chromebooks don't get counted as linux, i may be wrong though

    [–] [email protected] 0 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    I read that chromeos now runs actual Linux underneath

    not like android tho android sucks

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    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    i'll switch 100% to linux when Logitech supports my steering wheel.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Which one? The G27/G920/G29 and some others are supported pretty much out of the box.

    Not thanks to Logitech but they do work fine.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    G928 and the pedals and shifter

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Do you mean the G923? Can't find a G928 anywhere. The G923 is supported since kernel 6.3.

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    [–] [email protected] 84 points 10 months ago (11 children)

    Look....I use Linux. I love Linux. But let's be honest. That 4 percent is largely due to the steam deck; a gaming handheld where the vast majority of users don't know (or care) what operating system it uses as long as they can play their steam games on the go.

    That's not "year of the Linux desktop", because it's not a desktop. It just has one hidden under the hood if you want to dig past the steam layer (which, as I said...the vast majority of users never will)

    The year of the Linux desktop won't arrive until there is sufficient market share that software manufacturers are inclined to support us natively. That won't happen with a gaming handheld because no one would want to use a gaming handheld as a daily driver.

    Sorry to be a wet blanket, folks. Downvote away....

    [–] [email protected] 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    The steam deck doesn't work like a regular gaming console though. Without digging you can switch into desktop mode and it works like any desktop running KDE.

    Also, if you're saying that we shouldn't count steamdecks because linux came preinstalled, we might as well disregard 98% of the windows market.

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    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

    I'm pretty sure that this specific statistic leverages internet-user-agents. So a Steamdeck probably wouldn't be counted in as they aren't really used for browsing.

    [–] [email protected] 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Only 1.63% of Steam users were using Linux in 2023. Since pretty much all Steam Deck users are going to be using Steam, we can't attribute Linux's increase in market share to the Steam Deck alone.

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    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    It is actually a good thing because "I need windows for gaming" is the biggest reason why compsci and IT people still have windows.

    You're still right that it won't win over non tech people though.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 10 months ago (4 children)

    Gaming is why my son has Windows. Minecraft mods and VR games are basically impossible on Linux, although he actually spends most time in Linux playing Stardew Valley (he's tried learning Dwarf Fortress twice, and still not really gotten it, but maybe someday).

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    [–] [email protected] 6 points 10 months ago

    due to the steam deck

    You sure? Not proton?

    [–] [email protected] 7 points 10 months ago (2 children)

    India, the country with the largest population, has a 15% desktop Linux marketshare.

    Additionally, these surveys are highly inaccurate. They are at best a "conservatively low balled figure". Linux installations don't send a ping to a server anywhere to count the install, and there's no other facility to gauge or count through the Linux ecosystem itself. Most computers used for Linux are also sold with Windows pre-installed, which means there's no clean way to use sales figures either.

    All that leaves is the browser user agent when visiting select websites that track and share the number of unique visitors that identify as Linux.

    I did the math a few months ago in a different discussion (not on Lemmy) and my math at the time came up to about 50 million desktop Linux users, and that was using the "official" reported numbers of 3.x% at the time.

    That also ignores that the Stack Overflow developer survey puts desktop Linux at over 50% for personal use, and (IIRC) about 47% for professional use.

    But let's be honest

    You can't be honest if you look at a single boiled down percentage of a very large, very diverse and technical landscape with more variations and caveats than the English language.

    Also, in case anyone is wondering, the Stack Overflow numbers didn't include WSL. If you do include that then desktop Linux usage was over 70% for personal use.

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    [–] [email protected] 26 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    I agree Steam Deck played a role, but they didn't sell enough to make that large of an increase. That'd be insane. However, it did cause the appearance of gaming on Linux to change, which is the thing that was holding back a large number of users.

    I had used Linux several times over the past decade or so. It was never my main OS, and I had actually stopped using it completely for probably 5 years, maybe more. This is exclusively because gaming on Linux was an issue and I didn't want to swap OSs just to play a game. Last year I went 100% Linux. I know I'm not the only one, and I'm extremely confident that the increase is mostly this, not the Steam Deck. The number of Steam Decks sold seems to be maybe 6m on the high end of estimates, which is not enough.

    The Steam Deck was a catalyst, but it is not the source of the change.

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    [–] [email protected] 25 points 10 months ago

    Most computer users don't even know what an operating system is

    [–] [email protected] 13 points 10 months ago

    That is not really true as far as I can tell. Linux is growing because it is maturing as a ecosystem. We don't need a bunch of proprietary software to have a good experience

    [–] [email protected] 31 points 10 months ago (3 children)

    Thats like calling MacOS and Playstation rises the "year of the BSD desktop"

    Change my mind.

    [–] [email protected] 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

    Ok, compile some code on your PlayStation

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 10 months ago

    Folding at home?

    [–] [email protected] 21 points 10 months ago

    Android devices are the true year of the Linux desktop.

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