Meanwhile, in the U.S. I'm sitting here wondering if we'll even have a flu shot available for next winter, let alone a new vaccine that can protect from Covid and the common cold.
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I wonder how this could help those with long COVID.
long covid, aka sequelae (medical term) means you had a long last complication that seperate from the virus. the inflammation couldve damaged parts of your body you are chronically suffering from. it might not help, since its not caused by the virus anymore.
its basically like having PHN, or nerve damage after shingles, the vaccine wont help you with that.
Many long COVID infections are causing/caused significant damage to organs (https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11834749/). A vaccination isn't going to reverse organ damage.
Took me over half a year to get over covid.last time. I coughed so.much and so hard for so long I got a hernia.
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I don't think it's going to help them. long covid is past the stage of virus infection. It's where the body is attacking itself.
Doesn't chickenpox turn into shingles by infecting the nervous system?
Could long covid be related to that?
different issues. varicella can cause shingles, when it travels to your dorsal root ganglia near your spine or the ganglia in your head,or rarely it can become dormant in your autonomic nervous system.
varicella, a herpes isnt the same thing as coronavirus. long covid is just laymen terms for complications or sequalae. Covid can trigger shingles, because your immune system is fighting the covid virus instead of shingles.
The virus that causes chicken pox, lies dormant in your nervous system, where your immune system can’t get it, for decades. Then much later in life the virus can reactivate, infect along those nerves, causing shingles.
This is the important part of the chicken pox vaccination the we don’t talk about nearly enough.
- If you get chicken pox, you’ll probably be ok (although not everyone is) and get over it, becoming immune. But the virus will still lurk, opening you to shingles attacks when you’re much older
- if you get the vaccination, you’ll probably not only not get chicken pox, but will also not get shingles
Supposedly something like one in three elderly will get shingles, when they can’t as easily deal with it. As current generation gets old, that illness will practically disappear
the varicella vaccine prevents severe infections, but its not entirely protective against it, it just makes you asymptomatic, and once you get reinfected it can still become dormant, and get hsingles, just less chances of getting it.
We can save shingles if we stop vaccinating now!
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It depends! Sometimes it's autoimmune, sometimes it's lingering virus, sometimes it's disrupted regulatory systems, etc. When it's the immune system or lingering virus, a new vaccine can often get the immune system to relearn how to correctly handle the virus
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After the most recent flu or cold I had. I would do anything for a cold vaccine. Flu shot likely kept me safe from that last bug I had. But still would like a cold vaccine to.
cold might be harder since theres different viral species that causes it, and rhinoviruses alone account for 80-90% have 99 different types. flu is worst thought since its symptoms are more severe, and dangerous to some people.
I had the cold and COVID back-to-back. I felt much worse with the cold. It turned into a chest infection that took about three weeks to get over. And then right as I got over that, I caught COVID. I was just tired with COVID. Like I had a fever and some coughing, but aside from that I was just sleepy.
Joke’s on me though; That was over a year ago, and I still have long COVID. The coughing is gone, but I’m still fucking tired constantly. Doesn’t matter how much sleep I get. Ironically, it means I sleep a lot less, because if I’m going to be tired regardless, why waste the time being asleep?
I think "long covid" is something that has existed for a long time, well not long covid specifically but long term side effects of colds and flu.
A few years before covid I got a terrible cold or flu. Name a symptom of the flu and I probably had it, it was hard to even get myself to the toilet.
But what was so unique is even after the aches, the cough, and sore throat etc symptoms disappeared I didn't recover. I was exhausted. Even weeks later I'd fluctuate between days of being fine to the next barely able to get out of bed.
It took at least 3 months after traditional flu symptoms had finished till that started to taper off. And at least another 3 before I started feeling truly myself again.
About a month ago I had the flu - the real flu - for the first time either in ages, or in my life, and I actually had gotten vaccinated in autumn, and man, I thought I was dying. For two weeks I couldn't do anything. Just looking at the stairs gave me endocarditis. I never run fevers and I was just popping painkillers to keep it under 40 degrees. That was nuts. So during and afterwards I mostly been thinking about three things: 1. I would have died for real if I didn't have some basic protection from the vaccine, 2. I want a vaccine against the common cold as well, and 3. Jesus Christ please I don't want to die from a stupid cold or flu, at least make it Covid, but that's such a lowball way to go
Drowning is probably the best way to go excluding the obvious opiate overdose forever sleepy time. It's not drawn out like freezing to death.
Jesus Christ no no no, I take it back, I take dying from a cold please
I had a similar experience, also a month ago. Lots of people I know had it similar the last few months. Is there another wave of this going around and this time I'm noticing?
From my knowledge, here in Germany, there was a strong flu wave this winter. Basically everyone I know got a severe and long RTI, but I mostly know other parents of kindergarteners, so there is a big bias. However, it wasn't even localized to my area, my family is in another part of the country and similar story there.
I am subscribed to a kind of weekly questionnaire about RTI by Robert Koch Institute, there is also a report attached to it. I remember reading that there was, indeed, a stronger RTI and flu wave this year.