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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they absolutely had to remake it, make it the ultimate love letter to fans. Call up Toriyama-san, get him directing artists to make the updated 3D character models, allow players to switch between old and new OSTs, if they're not going to do a complete open world 3D overhaul then allow players to toggle between old and new graphics if it's more of a remaster than a remake, update the motorcycle race so that Johnny doesn't psychically know where you are at all times to bounce you 1000 times, fix some of the endgame stuff with the Black Omen so that it's not just a repetitive dungeon you do 4x, but has more impact on the world.

Dunno, couple of ideas off the top of my head. OG Chrono Trigger still plays so well, the sprites are perfect, the OST is s-tier, and if it's not the best it's easily in the top 3 best 16-bit RPGs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Call up Toriyama-san

Hate to break it to you, but he passed away a few days before you made this comment.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akira_Toriyama

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

I remember the chrono resurrection, I would want something like that. I srill hate Square for killing that. They could have worked with that team a released that game for that generation, and I think it was a 1 to 1 recreation.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

They should just make an animated movie. But don’t let anyone of Square Enix write the script.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Make it a re-imagining like FF7 but good

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

If they make this a full game they can take my money.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Make. Crono. Talk.

But srsly, moar side quests. Connect and collab with fan-made 3D remake people.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago

It would depend on the skill of the team doing it. A lot of people are praising the FF7 remake even though the gameplay is completely different because of not only how it builds upon and unites all the lore that exists, but how it expands it and subverts expections, and it can only do this when it isn't just a remake cash grab.

What I want in a Chrono Trigger remake is rather than asking us, asking the original visionaries that created it what they would want to add into it if they created it today, and to put in the effort into making and ensuring that vision works out.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

What could they possibly do better? I can't even imagine a subtle graphical improvement wouldn't make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

I remember the PS1 version when it came out with the animated cutscenes and loving it as simple, sparse, and incomplete as they were. The game was no different but there were bonus little scenes. That worked for me.

So I would love to see animated renderings based on the actual playthrough doing the things you did and how you did them in the game.

As these remakes and such come out I have been able to reflect on what more I would have wanted back in 1995. And today all I want would be the memory of what my choices were my first playthrough. Or any one after that really. I'd love just about any data at all on them, to get saved somehow.

Show me what the final timeline looks like with all my gameplay choices. Render important scenes with every combination of party member using things they used in the run.

I'd love the shit out of that.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Preferably don't. But if you had to, perhaps a 3d version using unreal but with the style of the box art.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Same. Chrono Trigger holds surprisingly well. It’s art, music, gameplay, story. Everything. It doesn’t need a remake.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (3 children)

Well I am surprised no one has mentioned this but:

This is the best possible JRPG to do a retcon/reimagining of as is going on with FF7, but a bit differently.

Time travel!

So, start a new story with new characters, but intermix this with the old cast and story beats resulting in a completely new story that brings back old favorite settings and characters, introduces new ones.

Maybe you change significant plot points of the old story, maybe you don't, maybe you doom the world to some entirely new kind of catastrophe, maybe you get stuck in what would otherwise be called a soft lock but is actually in this world an intentional plot device that just looks like a soft lock but isnt.

Hell, if you /really/ want to go hog wild with this:

Make the new set of characters generally opposed to the original set of characters, have their own method of time travelling, and make it so much of the game is actually about attempting to out-time-travel-wit the others, basically with certain characters attempting to be time demons ala DB Xenoverse and others trying to stop them... all mixed with the narrative possibilities at many points for many characters to switch allegiances, go rogue, or mostly team up.

even moooore possible endings

No I have no clue how you could actually write something this complicated, but the entirety of Kingdom Hearts exists and people tell me somehow that all makes sense, so I am confident a team of competent writers can pull off an absurdly complex multivariate story line.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Isn't this what they did in Chrono Cross?

Normally I'm a fan of not messing with perfection, but adding content to integrate Chrono Cross and Radical Dreamers better would be nice.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I do not actually know as this is the first time I am even hearing of Chrono Cross.

Youre telling me theres a sequel?!?!?

I only ever managed to play Chrono Trigger on ZNES something like 20 years ago and remember being blown away by how different and more interesting it was from basically every other JRPG up to that point.

Now I must find this sequel.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

Sorry for the late reply (no push notifications yet on Sync for Lemmy).

Chrono Cross came out on the PS1. It delt more with alternate realities but it did connect to the original Chrono Trigger. If you get the Chrono Cross remaster released a few years back, it not only contains Chrono Cross but the Novelization that came between Cross and Trigger known as Radical Dreamers. It helps "stitch" the two games together and helps the plot/ending make more sense.

I don't want to spoil it, but you will come across a few characters from both games in Cross.

There are even some characters that make an appearance in both games.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 8 months ago

Make the new set of characters generally opposed to the original set of characters

Chrono Triggered

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You've come up with a neat game. I'd enjoy playing it. I think you've moved beyond remake and into sequel territory, though. The multiple parties working at odds reminds me of the Golden Sun series.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I realized after writing this all out that it was closer to a sequel than a remake but... oh well, I thought it was a neat idea nonetheless.

And yes now that you mention it this is actually similar to the Golden Sun series irt the dueling groups of protagonists (antagonists?), but I swear I did not realize this and was going more from the DB Xenoverse time demon angle.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

For whatever it's worth, even if elements of the plot have been recognized as Good Story TM already by other games, that doesn't take away from your idea. Tropes become tropes because people like them. Who knows if you'll ever get to work on this particular idea you've had, but from hearing your idea I feel like you have that sort of knack for good story beats that a writer needs.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 8 months ago

I'm not a 2D purist. Quite the opposite actually. But Chrono Trigger really feels perfect for 2D. Kinda like Golden Sun. Like, you could try. But why?

It's like trying to cook a tender well done steak. Like you can if you want. Some people might say they prefer it that way. But the truth that if you want it tender, you should have just ordered it rare or medium rare.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

If they are gonna do it they should really do it properly like with FFVII remake/rebirth

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