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Globally, only one in 50 new cars were fully electric in 2020, and one in 14 in the UK. Sounds impressive, but even if all new cars were electric now, it would still take 15-20 years to replace the world’s fossil fuel car fleet.

The emission savings from replacing all those internal combustion engines with zero-carbon alternatives will not feed in fast enough to make the necessary difference in the time we can spare: the next five years. Tackling the climate and air pollution crises requires curbing all motorised transport, particularly private cars, as quickly as possible. Focusing solely on electric vehicles is slowing down the race to zero emissions.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yeah, I’ll just haul my kids around on an electric bike when it’s 20 degrees F (-7 C) with a windchill around 0 (-18 C), which also coincides with EVs getting absolute shit range because current batteries hate holding charges at that temperature. Also, I drive a 20 year old vehicle with 190,000 miles that I paid $3000 for 6 years ago or so. EVs and even E-bikes cost a whole lot more than that without the utility.

On top of that, calling vehicles that contain lithium batteries “zero-carbon” is laughable. The mining, refining, and manufacturing process in itself is an environmental disaster. I agree we need to find new modes of transportation powered by methods other than burning coal, natural gas, and dinosaur juice, but we don’t currently have the solution to this problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Manufacturing electric cars generates a bit more emissions than internal combustion cars, at least now while the technology is relatively young. Last time I read about it, an internal combustion car would catch up and pass the electric equivalent in emissions in a couple of years of normal use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

As an avid bicyclist who tried their best to live car-free: it's easier said than done for anyone living in the US. I used to make 7 mile commutes to work, even in winters that could go below zero some days. It's doable, but it wasn't easy either. I completely sympathize with anyone who wouldn't want to bike in those conditions, even if a whole bunch of people do so in places like Finland.

But the worst part is the infrastructure. Motor vehicles dominate everywhere. Motorists are routinely hostile to bicyclists. Despite my best efforts to be safe, I've had multiple close calls and was once nearly rear-ended by someone who was going about 50 mph. Technically I did get hit - I had veered to the right just in time to feel the side of their car brush on the side of me. Miraculously suffered no injury, and only one of the support bars on the rear rack had been dented in.

Point is, unless the infrastructure changes, I would never expect others to switch to biking. It is dangerous.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Cycling is not the solution. It's infrastructure.

I would love a walkable city. But I can't afford housing close to the city. The bus or train system isn't strong enough or convenient enough. Our country are set up for cars. Housing prices are set up for people to drive further to live.

Have affordable housing near the places I work and I won't need to drive. Stop blaming people for living their lives around a broken infrastructure. Stop cramming bicycles down our throats. We are not the problem.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

We are not the problem.

Then what is the problem?

The infrastructure

And who built the infrastructure?

We did.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah cars aren’t part of the solution at all

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cars are just the "effect" of the "cause". Vote in your local elections for better zoning laws and stop upvoting these shit articles that blame the people.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We won’t fix the problem until they are gone

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, with that logic, if 1/2 of the world population didn't eat and just died, that would also fix the problem too. But that isn't going to happen so your statement is as dumb as mine.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Put a ban in place for 2030 or 2035 and it will be fixed

If you don’t do that then everything will be designed with the existence of cars in mind

Even today they are building new roads, you go to a sub division and there are roads in front of every house

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So people like me who can't afford a job near my work have to ride a bicycle for 40 miles one-way for my work because someone in the past made home zoning impossible to scale the population growth.

Please tell me why I have to suffer and those fuckers who is camping in those expensive unattainable homes get to enjoy their home values?

Why do you want people like me to suffer more than I already do by having to drive 80 miles a day?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The point is you won’t fix that if there are cars

Why would you suffer from an issue that only exists because of cars if there weren’t cars?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

I disagree. Plenty of countries have converted highways to bike lanes successfully and continued using their cars.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cycling, outside of the few separated bike trails, is a death wish in TX.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That's because Texas was built wrong. The solution is to fix it, not push cars instead of bikes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No one pushed cars. Kindly do not assume things no one stated.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

they literally ripped out the streetcars in a conspiracy and got a slap on the wrist fine. cars were absolutely pushed down out throats., why do you think it's so hard to choose not to use one even if you want to?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I don’t doubt this at all.

But it’s going to be 10 degreees Fahrenheit on my way to work tomorrow.

Public transit that doesn’t double my commute time is what’s going to get me to stop driving. Not a bike.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

Tampere has improved a lot in the last few years in terms of cycling infrastructure, I now commute by bike all year round, even when it was under -23°C for two weeks at the beginning of this year.

There could definitely be more improvements as segregated bike lane coverage can sometimes be a bit patchy still.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool, what about those who don't live within biking distance?

My work is 37 km of rural highway from my house. I biked it once years ago, took me 1h45m one way. Not a reasonable option.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Cool. What about all those people who live within 5km of where they need to go, and are generally alone in the car.

Just because it doesn’t apply to you in particular doesn’t mean you can’t support and champion a cause that would help in the grand scheme of things.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago

The comment I replied to implied that if people in Montreal can do it, why can't I? I was merely addressing the implied accusation.

Besides, if you want a champion the guy making $40k/year isn't it.

The billionaires got a lot of money to spend on transit and infrastructure and densification, but everytime this shit comes up somehow the guy who barely clears the fuckin poverty line is the one who has be a champion.