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This was from 2017. (lemmy.ml)

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (61 children)

I mean, I was super curious what Sanders could've done if he had the chance. Instead, we got the opposite experiment.

If democrats in the US vote for stuff like Biden, then they're not voting for any radical change. Trump isn't comparable to that.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Americans voted for Biden because the primary system heavily favored Biden and Americans were told Biden was "more electable" than Bernie, even though every one of Bernie's policies and his messaging polled better.

If the DNC didn't put their thumbs on the scale, Bernie would have won in 2016 (or 2020), and guaranteed a democratic victory in the next election because nobody receiving free healthcare is going to vote to go back to the current system.

Bernie isn't radical, he's a social democrat, he just looks radical because the democrats are right of George W Bush right now.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I get it and I don't disagree, but- Well, I for one wouldn't mind some radical change. Just not in the direction that it is going right now. Radical in itself is nothing bad, when the status quo is as bad as it is.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 2 weeks ago

[–] [email protected] 34 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

"You have to understand there's only so much I can do in this position"

Meanwhile, one of their former members named Huey Long: "Now I dynamite 'em out of my path"

[+] [email protected] 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 26 points 2 weeks ago

Promise overwhelmingly popular left policy, start implementing it in the states you control, use every tool at your disposal to block republican policy. If the courts have to kill your legislation or governor's orders, make them do it, and if possible, do it in ways that can't be undone, such as forgiveness of debts.

eg, if you have the legislature and there is a republican governor, strip all powers from the governorship until you have it again. If you're in the minority party, block everything that you wouldn't do if you had total control while telling the public it is exactly what you will do when you get power. Stop pretending the courts are apolitical, appoint judges that will help you accomplish your agenda and will block the republicans.

Build power at the local level by responding to your constituents needs. Even if you didn't win the elections, democrats need to work with unions and local organizations, not expect loyalty while ignoring them and providing no resources.

Under no circumstances do you agree to republican framing and suggest you need to build the wall, engage in trade wars with China, fund the police to stop a crime wave, try to be the "patriotic" party etc. You cannot outflank the republicans from the right.

When Trump's ICE blackbags a student, we don't need Chuck Schumer out there agreeing with Trump that he is a horrible person for supporting Palestine but disagreeing with Trump's methods.

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