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[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

A common refrain from those opposing these protests was to protest at the oil companies instead of on the highway. But they did that already, blocked office entrances and even coal transports. But they were ignored by the media and politics. The companies in question were hardly inconvenienced. The new strategy of public disruptive campaigns was a result of this. Highly effective in gathering the attention of media and politics. But the push back as the article states is driving certain protestors into the next phase;

"He said new laws further criminalising disruptive protests had made traditional, accountable methods of activism increasingly unsustainable, and a clandestine approach increasingly attractive."

If you get 5 years for cutting data cables or sitting on the street, might as well do the thing that seems more effective.

2 years ago I was at a "Just Stop Oil" gathering nearby, mostly out of curiosity. The room was packed and outside a small group was discussing more escalating measures, which I won't repeat here. The reasoning was that disruptive tactics had been losing effectiveness and governments were still lagging behind their own unambitious goals. That more violent action could be justified because of self-defence. If companies are deploying violence towards our environment, why should they not defend it in the same manner.

From that moment it became clear, to me at least, that for some violence is not off the table. And that this kind of vandalism would just be a first step to more extreme action.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Yet no one even dares to hold china or russia accountable for what they‘ve been doing the last 10 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Lol nice deflection. Funny when cry about people doing something about the issue

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If this actually is about climate - China installed 50% of all new renewable capacity last year. 50% of the entire world.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

They use a disproportionately large share of coal compared to other non renewables.

They use less energy per capita than the United States (about 1/3). And they both use close to the same amount proportionally of non renewable to renewables. (88% China, 81% US)

https://www.worldometers.info/energy/

So effectively the hand wringing about their current power consumption while they are making strides toward renewables is not productive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

10? More like 80.

You're not wrong of course, but what are you going to do as a climate activist in the West? Honest question.

Wait, are you even refering to climate related things?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

You're not allowed to protest in the west because China pollutes more, and you aren't allowed to protest China because you're are westerner and should stay in your line.
Very conveniently you're allowed to protest alone in your home, as long as noone will see you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Also you as the consumer did climate change. Those in power were just following the market so it's basically your fault cause you used some energy and plastic sometimes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

What exactly are you talking about?