Bernie: 250 years the US has supported democracies
Net-a-yahoo: #whatAbout when they supported bad people?
World: uh, them too? You didn't actually refute Bernie's statement.
this post was submitted on 06 Mar 2025
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Who needs the CIA when we have useful idiots that sink any working class movement with shit like this
Parroting nationalistic myths is an occupation of Fascists, not of those in working class movements.
Nationalistic delusions of grandeurs are part of the foundation for guys like Trump ending up winning elections.
Sanders should know better.
If a working class movement needs to lie and gaslight people into American exceptionalism it is not a working class movement.
Anyone that meets the working class where they are to build class consciousness in terms they understand are building the working class movement.
But I guess we can nitpick and siphon the air out of any sort of potential for progress by doing the work of fascist apologists. Jailing and killing socialists will really bring about the perfect revolution we need
Accepting reality is fine. Gaslighting and covering for an oppressive system is not. Especially since this supposed movement has failed to make any gains with its endless compromises.
If the movement is only beneficial for the empire and not its victims I care little for it.
This is an example of where you can slightly tweak it to say "America is supposed to have..." and the entire problem is sidestepped
You know what Bernie is saying. I agree he can be more direct in this day and age. Anyone who has paid attention to Bernie understands he knows the system is broken
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Unfortunately sanders is one of our better actors within the institution. Many leftists would have been happy and welcoming of a sanders administration for 2 terms. FDR was also partially aligned with fascists but as far as presidential administrations go he did the most for the working class that anyone ever did(thankfully he was elected for 4 terms) sanders however flawed he may be would have been as close to a new age fdr as we were ever going tk get and this is why the dnc shot themselves in the foot and disgraced their electorate. The democratic party is a center right party so yes bernie sanders is a little too close to center to be a real leftist and he compromises too much with centrists and conservatives but this is the only way to get things done within a partisan class dictatorship we have.
But since the dnc made it clear they would rather move to the right and attempt to court conservative voters rather than move even a centimeter to the left they made it crystal clear the only way to remedy the rot and corruption of corporatist control in our political system is a full on revolution/ class war which has been waged against the working class for the last 5-6 decades at least.
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Yes let's shit on fascist resistance with "uhm actually"
Another nit-pick by the circular firing squad of so-called progressives.
True American Patriots like Bernie understand that the USA was mearly subverted away from the Light of Democracy by malign actors.
Gaslighting from fascist twitter users more than circling firing squad. Definitely took an opportunity to try to dig at the GOAT.
Solid theory. The right does love to trawl through history looking for failed authoritarian regimes to soy over.
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This is not fact checking. This is gaslighting. The fact that the USA has been supporting dictators for decades does not change or alter what Bernie is saying.
...Bernie said the US supported democracy. This is, in every conceivable way, a complete and total lie.
It's such a ridiculous lie that you wouldn't be able to say just those words after the year 1805.
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Congress had to lift a ban on arming neo-Nazis in order to send weapons to Ukraine. And Bernie, a supposed progressive, is arguing the US should continue a brutal proxy war by continuing to arm extremists.
This country has lost its fucking mind.
It's the natural result of a century of anti Russia and anti Chinese propaganda. The entire western world lost its damn mind and is likely to go full nuclear warfare before realizing they've been manipulated by a few wealthy people.
We definitely had some kind of anti-war movement during the GWB administration. But under Obama, they completely obliterated it.
The DNC primaried every anti-war representative they had, and are running literal, self-identified CIA agents for seats (including Elissa Slotkin who just delivered the Dem response to the state of the union, praising Reagan). They also helped the police and intelligence agencies coordinate a crackdown of protest across the entire country to protect Israel. And they’re working with the GOP to build cop cities across the country.
At this point, I consider the Democratic Party to be a branch of the CIA.
Of course they provide for the dictatorships, who do you think put them there in the first place? It's called responsible parenting sweaty 💅
That feel when my phone only rendered “geneva_convenience@le…” but I still knew it was .ml before checking