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Soo let me get this right. These programs made it easier for people of certain races or gender to apply to the university? And they got rid of that? How is it bad in any way?
Privilege is a thing you know. Being fair doesn't mean letting the one with the headstart just run and wait for others to catch up.
Instead you give people a head start based on the color of their skin or the genitals that they posses. Both things irrellevant to academic progress.
They're not irrelevant though and thinking they are shows that you don't understand the issue.
In the case of gender, DEI programs should actually be helping men at this point because women are attending and graduating college at a much higher rate than men. But the programs haven't caught up.
As for race, imagine a foot race where a white runner and a black runner are competing. The white runner starts 50 feet ahead of the black runner because the white runner isn't dealing with the effects of socal inequities (things such as school funding, quality of teachers, extracurricular activities availability, stable home life, jobs, etc). So a black student of equal talent, but worse grades on paper has had to work much harder than the white student to get ahead. DEI programs are trying to make up for the fact that a black student has had poorer access to proper education.
Because without DEI, those white kids who statically have access to better schools would always come out ahead when strictly comparing test scores.
These programs also affect white students in poverty by helping them out too.
And yet in the end, someone with worse grades gets the job because of the color of their skin. Fuck that. Reward people based on their achievements, test scores and grades. You wouldn't let me into the olympics on the basis of the fact that I wasn't a runner for 99% of my life. You wouldn't give me a gold medal when I come in last, just because I was never a runner.
No, you even the field for everyone so that academic progress can happen based on talent and work.
Sooo achieving higher scores and being overall more deserving of a position isn't a level playing field, because the other person is a different race. There isn't any talk of talent or work here. It's prefferential treatment based on stuff that isn't possible to be controlled.
You're very silly.
Do you think that people's behaviour is due to culture or genetics?
That doesn't have to do with the topic at hand. Universities should be meritocracies, with the best of the best earning doctorates / degrees / positions. There shouldn't be a situation where someone goes "well, your scores are better, but he is black so he gets the position"
Your theory does not account for systemic racism, history of oppression, and socio-economic disadvantages that minorities face in America.
If the only race who gets a fair shake in America is white people, albeit rich white people, then those will be the only ones to get into College based on meritocracy.
Both, actually. Genes and experiences are both responsible for elements inside human behaviour.
As an autist i am not explicitly targeted by facism but i have always been aware of how these dominoes fall.
After lgbt and people of color i am next in line.
Fuck this Nazi scum
The crazy thing is how they don't see how this will only make the view of those educated in Florida as less than that of say NY. Companies like, Google, are pretty selective and if this part of their education is gone this isn't going to give anyone a leg up in the selection process but rather will explain why graduates from FL have a harder time getting along with, relating to, and working with their team members.
Not going to lie, if I had an application on my desk that came from a Floridian, I'd check them very closely to see if they're sane. Besides potentially having a lacking education.
Florida and Texas need to be thrown out.
I sometimes look at the states that constituted the CSA and realize I wouldn’t really miss much if were kicked them all out
What problem does that solve? You're effectivelty advocating for them to be free to make their own laws and decisions like is already being done here.
They’re no longer a drain on American resources at that point, all of those states take more resources from the fed than they give
I am about as far away as one can be from Florida while still residing in the US, and it’s just not far enough.
Fucking Nazis.
“Higher education must return to its essential foundations of academic integrity and the pursuit of knowledge instead of being corrupted by destructive ideologies,” Florida’s commissioner of education, Manny Diaz Jr, said. The actions, he added, would ensure taxpayer money won’t be spent on DEI and “radical indoctrination that promotes division in our society”.
This is coming from a commissioner of education? Wow I am glad I don't live in the US.
Just curious which part of this statement makes you happy that you are not in US?
Well, it is a rather divisive ideology, simply as a matter of fact.
Here's New Jersey, not exactly a Republican stronghold:
Overall, 42% of employed New Jersey adults considered diversity among their peers “essential,” 29% said it was “important but not essential,” and 28% said “not essential.” While 64% of employed Democrats regarded it as “essential,” only 42% of employed independents and a mere 17% of employed Republicans echoed this sentiment; 52% of Republicans say it is “not important,” compared to 9% of Democrats.
Appointed position. Which was a change that voters voted for. It's all stupid all the way down.
I agree. I fully support DEI programs. But what I don't understand is how some of these positions end up being filled by rabid lunatics that end up saying the most bizarre shit, that ends up fueling these kind of changes.
We need to fix the system, but a the people that enjoyed the actual benefits of the privilege are not the ones affected by the current changes. And the goal should be to lift all, and not push some down.