What a nonsense article. The rich paid more because they've made 10 trillion on the market while normal people were busy getting wrecked by inflation. The rich don't pay income taxes on market gains, they pay capital gains taxes. I can't believe idiots fall for this stuff.
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This post was reported. Rule 2 says the post must be right wing or show a flaw with left wing. Paraphrasing.
This fits rule 2 as it’s show the trope the rich don’t pay their taxes and tax cuts benefit the rich is false.
The rich ended up paying more in taxes as predicted.
Was there a change in tax enforcement? This really isn’t enough data points to establish a causality, given there could be so many other factors.
Tax enforcement, no? But the Tax Cuts and Jobs Acts did lower the marginal tax rates for everybody.
Soaked?
It's a shitty source from a community with no source standards. So you're bound to find shitty titles like this one.
There is validity in the logic that lower effective tax rates lead to higher gross receipts. That is totally unrelated to the percentage of tax paid by the highest 1%. Other than a way to dunk (as long as you don’t think about it too hard) on democrats who hammer the “pay your fair share” line, it’s completely irrelevant.
Take the author, Arthur Laffer, with a grain a salt. Kansas for instance, took his taxation advice back in 2012, eliminating corporate taxes on pass through entities and slashing the tax brackets to just two and it failed so hard that they voted to repeal them and elect a democrat as governor after 6 years of budget crisis
Trump made many changes that impacted high income earners. The salt deduction was a major one.
Better source showing the rich don't pay their fare share:
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/new-york-post/
https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/propublica/
The solution is to gut the existing tax system, and replace it with a land and carbon tax.
Better source
I think you forgot to include it in your heap of garbage
Are you able to offer anything other than dismissive labels?
Sure. But why would I bother when I know you're just going to keep spamming your usual slop regardless?
Why do you two just go in circles all the time? Why not just Ignore each other?
Because just letting disinformation go unchecked is overall bad for the community
You're not checking anything. You're just saying "that's [label]"
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To actually counter disinformation you have to actually explain why it is disinformation. Or else all you're doing is a one man circlejerk.
Damned interesting! OTOH, the wealth gap has exploded since 1980, so it seems natural that the 1%, being so very much richer, and the rest of us being so very much poorer (in relation!), would bear a higher percentage of the total tax burden.
Can someone explain more? I'm no finance guy, but I'd guess there's more than a 1-1 relationship here.
Easy enough to understand with simple ratios. If the top 1% holds 50% of the nation's wealth, we would expect they should pay somewhere around 50% of the nation's taxes. If their wealth increases to 60% you would expect the amount of taxes they pay to go up by a relatively equal amount.
Conversely the lower 99% would pay an inverse proportion of taxes. If the wealthy are becoming propositionally more wealthy, the less wealthy should be paying less of the nation's taxes.
Now, that doesn't necessarily mean that someone in the 99% will actually pay less taxes, as their wealth is not increasing at the rate of the 1%. It just means that the wealthy should be paying more as their proportion of the nation's wealth keeps growing.
Your 1% has 50% of the wealth stat has been telephoned to what you're parroting now. The original stat is the 1% has more wealth than the bottom 50% combined. This stat stopped being used because it got exposed for being misleading. The bottom 20% has negative wealth and it's not until the 35% - 40% that there is positive combined wealth. A single person in the 21st percentile has more wealth than the bottom 40% combined. What that stat is really saying is the 1% have more wealth than the combined wealth of people between 40% - 50%.
I was making up numbers as an example, but seems the more accurate estimate is the top 10% hold 66% of the nation's wealth.
Except we don’t tax wealth. We tax income. Taxing wealthy is unconstitutional.
The high income earners pay more than their percentage of earnings. As such they pay their fair share.
https://taxfoundation.org/research/all/federal/rich-pay-their-fair-share-of-taxes/
As you will see, high income earner pay much more.
seems natural that the 1%, being so very much richer, and the rest of us being so very much poorer (in relation!), would bear a higher percentage of the total tax burden.
That's another point that I hadn't considered. The rest of us are just less able to shoulder more of the tax burden and, as a result, the 1% end up doing more. And/or the TCJA lowered the marginal tax rates, which just resulted in a shift of the tax burden, such that everybody was paying less in taxes, but they paid a higher percentage.
Your post is almost word for word what I was going to post, right down to the "I'm no finance guy." But yeah, greater concentration of wealth in the 1% in comparison to everyone else seemingly should result in increased tax share.
Gee, it's almost as if a massive increase in wealth resulted in a slight increase in taxes paid.
The two are unrelated. Income and wealth are different things.
Apologetics of the exploiters.
Hey! That's a good point! Especially post pandemic, they've made huge gains in wealth.
Also, they should probably be shouldering more because 125,000 Americans who earn more than $400K don't file tax returns.