EU could just make him a better deal?
this post was submitted on 15 Feb 2025
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Poor Ukraine. One side wants to kill them all and steal the land, another side wants to rape its land, not to mention bordering Belarus, Slovakia and Hungary who are the bitches of Putin. We live in a sad reality
Ukraine got used to weaken Putin and now the US sweeps in and recoups the cost for free. Ukrainians lose part of their country to Russia and hand over the minerals of the other half to America.
Imagine being Ukrainian and having died for this.
Being a US enemy is bad. Being a US ally is deadly
At this point I wonder who is worse Trump or Putin.
Wasn't the US supporting a genocide until like a month ago? Is this question really only popping right now in your head?
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Well duh. Trump is incapable of meaning anything he says.
Just tell the US they can have any resources they can liberate from Russia. We’d have tanks at Moscow in hours.
Which, seeing the treatment Ukraine is getting by the US, I assume you believe it's a bad thing right? Right?
The US only does things selfishly, so yeah. Though Russia really doesn’t have it better.
Agreed, but tanks in Moscow aren't the solution
If you thought that was a sincere suggestion, I didn’t /s nearly hard enough.
Not so much about your lack of /s, there's widespread russophobia since 2022 in the west and many people simply don't care what happens to so+called "orcs"
I have worked with many Russians in the past, they are fantastic engineers. The people are wonderful. But it’s very obvious why there is Russophobia considering they are the ones actively trying to capture land from other sovereign nations.
I don't hate Americans or English for the actions of their governments, I don't see why I should hate Russians
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What happens if he signs the deal, gets the aid, beats Russia back and reneges? Serious question.
"American warship, go fuck yourself."
The US already abandoned their promise to protect Ukraine from a Russian invasion after they agreed to give up their nuclear arsenal, so I can't imagine why they would trust us this time especially with a nutjob like Trump at the helm.
The US promised they would not invade Ukraine, but they never promised they would protect Ukraine.
The US promised to aid Ukraine should they ever be invaded after giving up their nuclear arms. Go read the Budapest Memorandum, specifically section 4.
Section 4:
The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used
The US promised to seek action from the UN Security Council if Ukraine suffered or was threatened with nuclear attack.
Ukraine hasn't suffered a nuclear attack. Even so, the US did seek action from the Security Council, but it was predictably vetoed by Russia.
Commas. "object of act of aggression" and "object of threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used" are two different, independent, conditions.
And btw China seems to be enforcing the latter. They independently gave Ukraine nuclear guarantees, just shy of calling it a nuclear umbrella, and there has been a suspicious absence of nuclear threats against Ukraine while there's no shortage of Russian threats against NATO.
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American promises aren't worth shit. Just ask the Native Americans, the Kurds, and probably a bunch more countries.
Like a reasonable person who sees a proposal with huge future impact - he is likely consulting lawyers ("is this permissible by law?") and other politicians ("is this a good move currently or strategically?").
Then comes time to present counter-proposals. One of them may be "we get considerably more help from Europe and they don't ask for half of the country's minerals - on this background, let's revise assistance and security guarantees upwards".
Trump's current proposal is such a poorly chosen one that one could show it to Xi and ask "for this extreme price, would you reign in your vassal named Putin, and cut exports of anything with a microchip into Russia?".
not worth the paper it was printed on