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    Linux is not ready (lemm.ee)
    submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by [email protected] to c/[email protected]
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    [–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (4 children)

    HDR isn't all that great for gaming yet, in my opinion. It takes too much tweaking just to get it working, because apparently games/proton still aren't able to natively pass that metadata to Wayland?

    Running every applicable game or all of Steam through Gamescope brings its own problems with how it handles the window, so I end up never using it at all. I just want it to be as simple as it is on Windows, man! 😩

    Also, VRR seems to make my screen flicker at an unnoticeably-high-but-still-irritating rate at random whenever I alt+tab, never figured that out yet...

    Finally, I do wish there was a simpler, more paint.net-like editor rather than GIMP, and I'm sure it's out there somewhere, but otherwise basically every thing on that list of features works well enough for me.

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    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (8 children)

    dual monitor on wayland....still f'd up

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    [–] [email protected] 23 points 1 week ago (15 children)

    I agree with Linus Torvalds. Linux is too fragmented. This makes consistent software deployment and support expensive and far too varied. Maintaining documentation alone requires an unlimited number of distros. From a user's perspective, I really think Linux needs a universal install method like .exe. No user should ever need to use the CLI install software, no matter their distribution. Radarr, for example, is a very popular home media server application. It is one-click install on Windows. It is fucked on Linux.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

    Looks like a one click install on nixos - so youre right to say its fucked on Debian, but that hardly represents the whole OS (like my god you want to hate Linux try LFS and claim it represents the OS).

    The way I see it the biggest fragmentation is just users expecting things to work like windows, ie navigating to a website, downloading the software and running it.

    Usually Linux users just search their package repo. If you want more bleeding edge software, youre expected to understand Debian/Ubuntu repos probably aren't the place to go.

    Can't really blame the wrench youre using to put in a screw for doing a bad job.

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

    Absolutely. I hope flatpak can take that role. It's already widely accepted.

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Yeah that's just radarr devs not actually packaging the thing.

    Compare the nixos instructions. Which, mind you, is not a distro for beginners, the faint of heart, or generally people who are neither functional programmers nor devops, but that's how easy it is when you package shit properly.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

    Yeah that’s just radarr devs not actually packaging the thing.

    It's not about blame. From a user's perspective, it doesn't matter who is to blame. The bottom line is that Linux is harder to use in a lot of scenarios. Torvalds was right: it's going to take Valve to statically link everything and force developers to use the same libraries. Then it's trivially easy for devs to maintain a .elf distribution which can be executed across all Valve-compliant Linux distros.

    [–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

    The bottom line is that Linux is harder to use in a lot of scenarios.

    And who's at fault? The devs. To wit, the radarr devs. Really, the minimum there should be calling what they describe "manual installation" and saying "we don't package our software for distributions, consult your distro's package manager radarr might be available". It's a daemon so it's not like they can ship a flatpak, deamons need system integration.

    The whole sonarr/radarr/prowlarr/whatever-rr dev folks don't seem to be particularly Linux-affine in general. I consider it windows software that happens to run under linux, developed by presumably windows users running linux on their seedbox because if there's one thing that's worse, even for windows-heads, than learning a bit of linux then it's using windows in a server role.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (3 children)

    And who’s at fault?

    It’s not about blame. From a user’s perspective, it doesn’t matter who is to blame.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

    Docker is the best alternative but also not good for beginners.

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    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    I haven't made the switch yet for the gaming PC because of Apex Legends, Fornite, and Valorant. Also, my Fanatec peripherals don't work with Linux. Also, Nvidia frame gen doesn't currently appear supported.

    [–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Fwiw frame Gen sucks and adds latency.

    Those other games might be worth a dual boot, or maybe looking glass or something

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    [–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago

    +1 for kdenlive!! Kickass software

    [–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

    On the 5 distros i used, i had different problems that would make normal people uninstall the OS

    I could ignore them because the benefits outweigh the problems, other people probably couldnt because they want a stable computer, not cool features

    [–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    If I had to count the issues I've had on windows that would make users uninstall the os, were it linux, wed be here a while. Linux gets shat on cause users are used to dealing with windows bullshit and issues and problems and errors and crashes and using commands in terminal and going through 20 nonsensical stupid ass control panels and using regedit for basic things. Ive had less issues with linux over the past year than I've had on win11 the month before I switched. And unlike linux, win11 issues were not caused by me being stupid.

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    What are the basic things you are referring to?

    Windows has the advantage that hardware is made for it. It wont randomly freeze or refuse to use a piece of hardware

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

    Changing mouse scroll direction, dealing with deleting some programs or drivers, bunch of other small things, troubleshooting why your game is not running or running badly.

    [–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

    Are those common problems?

    Also, games having terrible performance is an issue common to both linux and windows and on linux is much more often

    [–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago

    I've been fucking around regedits troubleshooting crashes and bsods for a while and it mysteriously stopped once I switched to linux. Windows gets a pass for having stupid errors that should not be there but linux doesnt.

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