That's right 5.27.12 is out. Ohhhhhh yeeeeeeeeaaaahhhh
this post was submitted on 08 Feb 2025
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sudo apt install cool-package
438 dependencies
will need to download 1.4 gb
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It's called Plasma. Plaaaaaassssmmmaaaaaaaaa.
Very dumb question, but I'm kinda new to Linux. Do I have to manually update that or does it just do it when I update packages and the like? I'm on Arch btw.
On linux, generally everything you install is through a centralized repository, you can think of it as an app store, arch is all entirely updated through pacman, pacman is just a command line way to interact with the app store.
There's no way you're so new to Linux that you wouldn't know if that would update automatically yet you're running Arch btw. That's like saying, "Do I need to do oil changes on my car? I built my engine, btw."
Nah, there's a bunch of people (even on Lemmy) that recommend Arch or Arch-derived distributions to newbies. Many mention they haven't used any other distro themselves.
They would still have to go through that ridiculous install following the Wiki, so I think that they are be pretty well educated on updates.
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I am not sure if anyone answered your question in a way that you were expecting so let me try
yes you will get the update but you might not know it because your config wont change, so you have to go into the theme settings and use the "default" to see the pretty
In general, almost everything you install with pacman will update when you do pacman -Syu (and restart, in case of kernel updates). The way packages work, all the files needed for a piece of software to function are installed from a package, and when you install a newer version, it removes all the files from the old version and puts in new ones. (Caveats apply to configuration files you can modify - those don't get replaced if you do)
So after you update some software through pacman, it should be in an entirely clean state, just like if you just installed it. The main caveats apply to things like flatpak, which manage its own packages, and software like Steam and Discord, which have an additional auto-updater for some things that's storing files separately.
You update and then the entire system breaks (because Arch)
Arch btw
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What's so funny? Like I said, I'm new to Linux.
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/btw-i-use-arch
You may think you're new....but clearly you have the spirit of a Linux veteran.
Then Arch is kind of a terrible choice for you. I use it (btw), but I've been using linux since 2008.
The learning curve and constant need to troubleshoot things isn't great for beginners.
EDIT: can someone explain why I'm getting downvoted? Isn't this common knowledge that Mint and other begginner-friendly distros that don't have complicated package managers and require less configuration and maintenance are better for someone who's just starting with Linux?
I myself began with Ubuntu back in '08 but nowadays use both Arch and Mint.
What are y'all doing that you need to troubleshoot constantly? My experience with arch is about the same as my experience with Debian.
That's one of the reasons I chose arch. Because of the difficulty i can't take shortcuts or be lazy and have to actually learn. When I tried something like Pop_OS I definitely enjoyed it but didn't really learn anything because it was all done for me.
Well then that's a great approach and more power to you. Enjoy Linux!
Arch Linux can be a bit overwhelming for newbies when trying out for the first time. Hey if you are comfortable with it then so be it. But if you have tried other friendly distros before this you can get an understanding of different package managers, arch packages, AUR etc. And to answer the question if you installed KDE through pacman or AUR helper, then it will be updated automatically when you update other packages through it.
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"I use Arch BTW" is a meme in the Linux community. It reflects the perceived urge of Arch users to boast about using it.
Welcome to Linux :)
It does it automatically.
But make sure to read the Arch news before every update, especially when it's a lot of packages. Something big like a new KDE Release might require minor manual intervention.
I'm more of an "update first, care later" type of person
And it works great, 100% recommended to newbies
Oh and make a separate home partition, just in case
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I've literally only read the news the 1 or 2 times there was a breaking change during an update. Blindly updating (non-AUR) has served me fine for over 10 years
Well everyone's milage may vary. I have set up informant some time ago so I'm forced to read the news on updates. But much more importantly I've ignored .pacnew files for years till it bit me in the ass when a Pam config file change broke my login so now I'm not ignoring.pacnew but merging them every update.
Oh.. Ohno
How safe is merging them?
I would recommend doing it manually - you can get a GUI diff tool (I like Meld), run it with both the normal file and pacnew, and merge every change from the pacnew into the main file.
I've been using topgrade as of late and was worried it would break my files. Have to check what it changes specifically.
Always when it prompt me, been ignoring it for now as one of the files is my rc files that gets changed.
Thank you
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I run krohnkite and klassy, but damn is it a fine default.
Me who uses GNOME on Debian stable
I've tried really hard to like GNOME, but god damn we don't get along. Debian 12 is solid AF though.
I have tried both kde and gnome many times and i can't stand either one. I'm forever stuck in cinnamon.
somehow every distro that ships with kde has tons of big bugs that I can't figure out (probably related to my setup), and gnome feels like a tablet UI. cinnamon won't autosuspend but it's the smallest headache of these...
I found that for me installing KDE Plasma on Mint is peak. I'm using it like this since the Mint 22 Beta.
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Funny enough Cinnamon is Gnome 3 done right.
And I agree gnome in general has its sore points, I'm just used to them.
I am you
I don't even know which version of GNOME I run anymore. I only notice when the GNOME devs remove some feature I used to use.
Yeah, about the same. Honestly I'm in a state that I don't really care even. GNOME does everything that I need it to while being very invisible and out of the way and I love it
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lol