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Scientists Are Freaking Out About Ocean Temperatures: “It’s like an omen of the future.”
(www.nytimes.com)
Is this what's making the ~~frogs~~ whales gay???
this post was submitted on 27 Feb 2024
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Mammals tend to have fun being mammals. I'm not aware of any evidence that it is temperature-related.
I used to work with ocean researchers and they are some of the most depressed, heavy drinkers I've ever met. A big reason I moved on from that workplace.
Imagine writing scientific papers on an ocean you already know is dead. Research which is funded by the government, the same people who allow clear cut logging inland which has decimated the salmon population, which is vital to ocean life. So you better not be too loud about that when it's time to apply for more funding.
Clear cut logging, so our useless commonwealth friends over in the Atlantic have wood chips to burn and toilet paper to waste.
Or, the absolute molestation of our mountains so the rest of the world can buy more phones and EVs, which has destroyed said watersheds.
Can someone tell me whether sea level rises are still a concern and if so, why no one seems concerned?
When I was a kid that was the big scary climate change thing. I know it's maybe only 50cm but that's still problematic for lots of real estate... isn't it?
Like just the other day I visited an expensive apartment that would've been maybe 50cm above sea level.
The problem isn't just the level the seas rise to because of melted glaciers; it's the increase in chaos in weather systems - storm surges like the ones blasting mansions off of cliffsides in cali, crazy flooding, more hurricanes of increased intensity, etc
It's a concern already for low-lying atoll islands like those in the Maldives and Tuvalu. Half of Tuvalu's capital city is expected to be flooded by 2050, but they've been seeing the effects for years unfortunately.
It really depends where you are though - my town is at around 100 m elevation and about 80 km inland. When I was a kid, my mum used to have nightmares about tidal waves coming over the horizon because she was so scared of sea level rise.
The rising of the sea is astronomically slow, so there's a lot of denial about it. It's already a minor (maybe moderate?) problem here on the east coast of the US. Boston, NYC, and Miami are already seeing more flooding during storms than they saw historically.
But if there's someone who is willing to pay for a waterfront property despite the risk, then there will always be someone willing to sell it to them.
But here in Boston, we're finally starting to see new construction projects taking future sea level rise into account: https://www.baysideupdate.com/#:~:text=By%20raising%20the%20Project%20Site,and%20protect%20the%20surrounding%20neighborhood
It only affects rich people who own coastal properties.
These same people also tend to be rich enough to own other properties, so it's not that big of a deal.
It was a "big deal" a couple decades ago because these people had to realize they need to invest somewhere other than the coast before it's too late.
Right now it's too late because everyone knows coastal properties' days are numbered.
The thing is though... bad things happening to rich people's money usually means worse things for poor people.
It's really naive to think that a bunch of expensive property becoming worthless is not a big deal because it only affects poor people.
Suggesting that rich people are the only ones who own low lying property is a flawed premise also. What about low-lying island nations? What about low lying inland areas? There's plenty of communities in Australia that aren't necessarily close to the coast but would have an altitude of less than 1 metre.
My point is that nobody really cares these days because the ruling class has already divested.
Regular people don't seem concerned because of reporting bias. People that continue to live on coastlines aren't going to be fearful of living on coastlines. Insurance companies are pulling out of Florida for this reason however. Sea level rising is still going to happen.
It remains a concern; and is proceeding at a few mm per year.
I'm seeing it affect local planning in a meaningful way where I live, and is demonstrably affecting property values in low-lying areas.
I guess part of my question was whether it's progressing more quickly than previously anticipated given that climate change is progressing more quickly than previously anticipated.
My local council has a 100 year plan to mitigate the impact.
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