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Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau denounced Trump’s sudden 25% tariffs, warning they threaten American jobs and will inflate consumer costs.

He revealed that Trump refuses to take his calls and sharply criticized claims linking tariffs to illegal immigration and fentanyl crossing U.S. borders.

In retaliation, Canada and Mexico imposed matching tariffs, targeting crucial American exports like auto parts, agriculture, and red-state staples like famous Kentucky bourbon.

Trudeau warned American factories may shut, citing integrated supply chains.

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[–] [email protected] 69 points 4 days ago (10 children)

Here are some numbers to consider.

The US sold $441 billion worth of goods and services to Canada in 2024.

Canada sold $482 billion worth of goods and services to the US in 2024.

The US has a populating of 334.9 million people.

Canada has a population of 40.1 million people.

Per capita, every American man, woman, and child spent $1,316.81 on Canadian goods and services.

Candians spent $12,019. 95 on American good and services.

Who isn't pulling their weight in this trading relationship?

This isn't about illegal immigration and it isn't about the 20 lbs of fentanyl that tried to cross the border from Canada.

This is about the billionaire class raising taxes on the poor and raising prices for Americans.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Good.

Imagine after less than two weeks in office, you're threatening and blackmailing other nations into being annexed by you and thinking this makes you the good guy in this scenario.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I doubt he thinks he's the good guy and I'm certain he doesn't care.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My impression is that he thinks morality is dumb, basically. He's the protagonist of his own story, to the degree you'd expect from a raging narcissist, but not every story has a protagonist that's good.

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[–] [email protected] 25 points 4 days ago

Please! We're in dire need of consequences.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 days ago

Good. Hit us with your best shot. We deserve it.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Am I the only one who was reminded of the opening video in Fallout 2?

https://youtu.be/0_BYycHO_6A

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago

Is it weird how many fallout references I've been seeing lately?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Annexed Canada; lost Alaska to China. Then got exploded a lot.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 4 days ago

Any sufficiently advanced incompetence is indistinguishable from malice.

[–] [email protected] 58 points 4 days ago (3 children)

If Canada just stopped selling aluminum and steel to the US, it would heavily affect aerospace and military manufacturing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah during Trudeau's speech the only thing I was thinking when he was listing all of Canada's resources is, "are you trying to encourage a US invasion?!"

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Potash and Canada exports a lot to the USA. This would affect the US agricultural sector.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago

Automotive too

[–] [email protected] 98 points 4 days ago (5 children)

If you are a Canadian or Mexican please contact your representatives and have them do a more targeted tariff plan. Target American red states directly! Oil tariffs should be universal but anything made in red states and counties should have a 100% tariff. Force industry and goods to flow through blue areas and Trump's support will crumble.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

As the other posters have pointed out, we're already on it. Which, no offence, is a symptom of why we don't want to be part of the US - our government actually works.

I looked over the official list, and it's stupid detailed. Like, a couple of goods mentioned are papers for wrapping cigars and fitted cases for church bells.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 days ago (1 children)

According to this (see first 2 minutes), they are specifically trying to target red states in hopes of getting republicans to try and intervene with trump.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 4 days ago (4 children)

This assumes the people in the red States would see the chain of causation, which is unlikely.

It will create an enemy out of the taxing countries. I dont have a better idea but at this point his base will never turn from him.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

The number one predictor of electoral outcomes is people's feelings on the economy.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Trump's base is a lost cause, but the pain may get the soft Dem voters to get off their arses and turn out for the next election.

Nothing will shift Maga, so appealing to them is wasted.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago (2 children)

I agree there is a large subset of MAGA that are lost causes, however, I've seen a couple people around me change their minds on Trump: One was over the H1B (fear of job loss) and the other was over these recent tariffs (fear of paying more). Had to cause issues that could have direct impacts to them personally to change their minds, but there you have it.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 days ago

The idea is this will force red state senators to do something. It worked during the Bush administration, anyways.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Justin Trudeau tried to speak to the American people and did play heavy on the lasting friendship between the two countries. Will that dull the backlash against Canada? Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 days ago

Trump wants an enemy out of Mexico, Canada, and China.

Which is hilarious because one of those things is not like the other

[–] [email protected] 16 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Even 38.3% of Californian voters voted for Trump. The Trump party only has a 9 set majority in the house, and California has 9 of them, all of which are up for reelection in 18 months. Targeting individual states probably isn't that helpful.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

It absolutely will. Red state leadership only cares about one thing. Money. The moment you start targeting their bank accounts. They'll flip on Trump. Spreading the tariffs across all voting bases is dumb. Yes 38.3% voted for Trump, but that's nowhere near as much as the other 61.7% that actually want a better future for all! Red states are already struggling. Push them to the breaking point first to see how they react. Hurting working class blue voters will only push them right.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

California has over 6 million Trump voters, why avoid them?

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