If I have to use a cloud service or create an account to use the terminal, it’s a no for me dawg.
Did warp ever follow through with allowing folks to use it without signing into your GitHub account?
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For me to even consider using AI in my terminal, it'd have to meet a couple of requirements:
- needs to be open source
- needs to be run without network access
- needs to be an extensible utility to any terminal program.
(And that's off the top of my head.)
Bad idea
tldr, fzf-tab suffices for me. For anything else you may give shellgpt a try. But I love my Alacritty with a zsh and p10k.
optional autocomplete is a nice-to-have, eager autocomplete is a pain in the ass. as long as it only completes when I ask it to, I don't mind.
As long as AI is not being forced into the existing terminal standards, it's good, as you can just choose to not use a terminal with AI.
This is faily easy to build using offline models. Only problem is GPU whirring away running typically light terminal commands.
So,
This is a proprietary and therefore untrustworthy terminal in a space where virtually all the competition is libre/open source.
It's connected to the cloud, therefore insecure and privacy-invasive as there is no reason for something as basic as a terminal to be connected to the cloud. Who wants their SSH keys leaked? Anyone?
They require an account but don't collect data? Sketchy to say the least, a unique account is the perfect tool to collect data and there is no reason a terminal, the most basic interface to the underlying OS should require an online account. It should be tied to the system. (After further reading, apparently they do collect data by default).
It has a built-in AI autocomplete, because apparently normal auto complete isn't good enough (just wait until it tells you to rm -rf /*).
Yeah, no matter how nice it is, I will never accept this terminal.
EDIT: They also forked Alacritty to create a "demo", they took advantage of a libre/open source project for their proprietary terminal and never did so much as thank the authors of Alacritty. That's scummy.
IANAL but it looks like they are violating Apache 2, as they are supposed to retain the license and mark any changes.
AI can be neat, but this is a solution looking for a problem, like most AI things.
I'm not the biggest fan of the forced account thing, but I do like a lot of Warp's features. The command suggestions especially make dealing with tools that have like 1000 switches so much easier (like docker for example). Other than that... It's easy to customize, fast and looks good.
Tl;Dr: I like Warp, cry about it.
Command suggestions can be provided by the shell too for what it’s worth. fish ships with autosuggestion and autocompletion. For zsh, you need a separate plugin (but it’s well worth it)
I use fish and have used it for a long time and it works very well with warp, actually. You get both it's autosuggestions and warp's autocomplete. 's nice
Fair enough
Its not that i hate the idea of having an AI in the terminal its just the idea of having a account to use it. I played around with it last night and tried diffrent ideas which it sometimes is useful. I did #what is my graphics card "Lspci -k "VGA"" Ok that was helpful Then i tried #what driver is my graphics card using? "Lspci -k "VGA"" Which does not list your driver. Its hit or miss.
Terminal with GUI drop down menus every time you try and type something seems like the kind of Terminal a microsoft executive would dream up
I don't know what AI could bring to the table in this case that you can't do without it already. Command completions or fixing typos works without using AI. If there was an actual benefit, I'd be open to try it out but only by using an open source LLM running locally. I'm definitely not creating an account and paying a monthly subscription while not even being able to use it offline.
I'll just use ChatGPT standalone, lol. Or cheat.sh.
I don't like generative AI in my tools. The little prompt that explains a command and arguments that can be passed as you type is nice, I will give it that, but AI should not be any part of it. Fuck right off with it.
Here's my opinion. This terminal app is inefficient as fuck. I feel like it's too much bloat for what a terminal should be. She'll Completions have existed since forever, I don't get what's bringing new with that. And all these AI's that just resell chatgpt are getting expensive. "Please pay me 10$ a month to have OpenAI in your " . If I were to activate all the AI subscriptions in all the apps I use it would go over 100$. If I need ChatGPT I will just go on their website and get it from there. It's even cheaper that way, 20$ for unlimited use.
Kitty terminal with my zsh plugins are far better than asking me for an account on your terminal.
And also sharing info with your team THROUGH THE TERMINAL? WHAT KINDA SHIT IS THAT. That should be documentation in THE REPOSITORY, IN THE PROJECT. You're just fragmenting information, and it's going to make it harder for you to keep it up to date and for people to find it.
And... I don't want to force on my team "hey you have to use this terminal otherwise you won't have the info". I feel like with this I would be encroaching on their personal space and way of using their computer.
And also like "workflows" just get yourself a makefile or a task file and now you can reuse your "workflows" in any terminal, shell or environment.
I feel like all these apps with OpenAI ask me to pay just so I don't have to manually copy and paste to the ChatGPT website. Oh please...
"How about no"
I can hear the meme when i read it
What's my thoughts? My thoughts are FUCK relying on the internet for basic things. So no "AI terminal" for me. This is yet another way to mine data cloaked in futurism.
Well that's a new way to rm -rf /
No thx
I'm neutral towards AI, what I can't wrap my head around is forcing users to sign in / sign up to use offline apps. Fuck you too, Postman.
You can thank me later.
Thank you, I have tried Insomnia in the past but it doesn't work for my team as they refuse to implement pre-request scripts properly. I assume insomnium is the same.
Wait, it's Postman but better?
DO NOT WANT!
I really enjoy Warp. It’s sleek and modern, plus it saves me a lot of time with its advanced autofill features. It also gives me helpful suggestions for minor edits if I’m making small errors that keep a command from running.
I haven’t used the chatbot, but I have found the user experience of the program to be better than most other terminals I’ve used before.
I'm in the same boat. Best terminal app I've used in a long while. Not using AI features
I'm likely going to try out Wave Terminal with a self hosted LLM. I think it may well be quite useful, just don't want to upload my entire command history to OpenAI.
Let me know if you get that working! That would be super cool.
AI that can auto generate all those command line arguments I keep forgetting? Sure.
Closed source terminal that requires account? No way.
And also, like... Data privacy... My terminal commands and command outputs contain sensitive data. Even company sensitive data. I don't want to be liable.
Big fat N-O
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