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She brings up a good point how liberal (aka burgoise) feminism is used as a tool of racism, which imo is also used as a tool of imperialism. (same as western imperialists hiding behind faux support of queer people imo)

I am still watching myself, so I may add comments as I hear stuff.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

its a wonderful recommendation, thank you comrade

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

i would also like to inform you that you are my 911th notif

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

What if one of them is from me and I'm still waiting on a response? :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Oh fuck oh shit uh fuck shit uh ill reply

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I repent for my sins

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Straight facts.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I love Alice Cappelle's videos!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Hate to quote this person given his recent politics but, "you were in on the heist (white supremacy), you just didn't like your cut".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

YouTube has wanted me to watch this for months. I don’t feel like it. Interested to see the thoughts of those that did watch it tho.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It's not a perfect video by any means, but it's legitimely the first time I saw someone acknowledge a lot of issues perpetrated by men is men reacting to inhumane conditions of living as poor people under capitalism.

I don't have stats to back this up, but from my experience men tend to "fail" harder at capitalism - once they're not doing well, they don't get as much help if any, and it goes downhill. The rough sleeping homeless are predominantly male and people hate them. Tons of low paid unsightly uncomfortable jobs are filled entirely by men. Men live less yet tend to get worse retirement age (in some countries not even equal to women's). Men are dehumanized and frequently entirely seen as fully equivalent to robots to do the rich's bidding. They're meat fodder for their wars. And if they don't want to participate, they're systematically abused mentally and physically for it. And there's so much more. I do believe systemic misandry is possibly the biggest chunk of capitalism self preserving. And it's so ingrained into the society I nearly never see it spoken of, and right wing men's rights activists tend to only observe it skin-deep, without reflecting on who gets benefited by working men to death. Capitalism also always needs to create a group who is content with status quo, so it wouldn't benefit them to apply it to the entire society as severely, plus they need constant supply of new workers. But they also supply new workers mainly through immigrants such as myself, and they dehumanize as much and more as they dehumanize men in homogenous societies. As a chronic man lover, I find it grim. I love men so much I yearn for communism, so men don't have to suffer like this. little friend

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

That’s good. I’ve heard the message before, but am glad the algorithm is pushing it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You should look at the opinions of a decent chunk of the women's suffrage movement on black suffrage. Nothing has changed, it's just more sophisticated now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I've heard the idea that if men were more like women the world would be a better place (frankly still not totally unconvinced of this assertion), but her point that this particular type of submissive/docile woman that is being referenced in the aforementioned hypothetical is in fact manufactured in part by patriarchy is a great point.

In general though, feminism without class consciousness is very pernicious and from my US POV is pretty widespread among middle/upper class groups. It can be difficult to criticize because blatant misogyny is still such a common perspective here, so offering nuanced views on feminism to a bourgeois feminist can be difficult and often seen as hostile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Fuck, if this isn't the truth! Breaking through privilege of any type is rough for everyone involved, but so very powerful if you can accomplish it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thank you for the vid, I'll bookmark it for later (have a backlog of content and study materials that's piling up in my break from theory). Always love an analysis that peels back the facade of rainbow capitalism since living in the US it's everywhere with both sides using it all the time.

Hope you stay strong comrade.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Thank you. Likewise. I'd give it a priority if I were you. It's really really good. It had me like this meme the entire time:

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I really like her vids. This one is a pretty good distillation of the main points from the book A Decolonial Feminism which I also recommend.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't wait to be able to read books again via a library once I'm back to Ireland. >/////<

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Are you saying that staring at [insert other language here] long enough does not give you literacy?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I cannot lie, Comrade Pup Ivy, I've been staring at men a lot and I'm still not literate in their language. 😭

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Have you tried putting your face really close to them to absorb their content better?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I did it a few times and I absorbed some of their conten- [redacted by the volcel police]

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

At the end she brings up a feminist who uses intersectionality as a tool to support concepts like the nuclear family, and other right wing values.

I cannot do the video justice. I genuinely think all leftists should watch it. It's really good.

The comments are madness though. xd

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There are also some good comments and critiques of her video, e.g.:

""the education of boys is bad" followed by "that statement in itself doesn't seem too bad, right?" is a completely wild and insane sentence."

I completely agree with the person. IDK why she thought education of boys being bad didn't sound like an utterly despicable thing.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I can't stress how revolutionary this video sounds to me. Instead of focusing on the concept of "toxic masculinity", she actually addresses that men act the way they are, because of the ongoing societal issues, and brings up how the solution to make men act like women boils down to wishing to make men docile/submissive as women are being systematically made by the education system (I'm not entirely sure about how the education system makes women submissive, without doing so to men, but I'm still watching). She brings up how patriarchy and toxic masculinity are used as false reasons for people's struggles to poor societal conditions, and how it was actually a resistance of poor people to the class war, to racism they're affected by. This video is so good.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I watched it some time ago and I agree! This creator can go from good to super based at times. I don't know if she has ties to the growing anti-colonial alternative media from France but she really has similar talking points so it wouldn't surprise me at all. Those are people who are both cool, successful and able to quote Chairman Mao on the occasion. This is what gives me hope about this otherwise cringe country!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your post. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: