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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Classic rock is a specific fucking genre! Eminem will never count. Slayer will never count. Black Sabbath will never count. Miles Davis will never count. Age has nothing to do with it.

Aerosmith's output circa 2000 is classic rock, but it was classic rock at the time. It was classic rock when it was new.

This is aggravating only because it's the same stupidity as using "new wave" or "modernism" to refer to, just, whatever's recent. It is a complete failure to understand how labels work. Linkin Park can't be classic rock for the same reason it can't be traditional blues, folk music, or classical. These words do not just mean... old.

The only reasons people say this shit are (1) simple mistaken ignorance, (2) stupid trolling, or (3) radio stations insisting the only categories of music are "classic rock," "R&B," and "country." Like ClearChannel trapped them in a timeless expanse by playing "the best of the 80s, 90s... and today." Today being the last twenty years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

In the 70s lynard skynard was southern rock. The Beatles were British invasion. The byrds were psychedelic. Pink Floyd was prog. By the 80s-90s they were all classic rock. What makes you think the same thing won't happen to prodigy and Linkin park?

This post is giving strong "old man yells at cloud" vibes.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Preach, friend. Got in an argument with my husband about this. He kept saying that it's a part of getting older but I refused to believe that.

I feel the same way about classic/ old school rap. It's a defined style of music, not just music your parents listened to.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Right: calling Prodigy "dad music" is a deep and vicious jab. Calling Prodigy "classic rock" is a category error.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I bought hybrid theory when it was new, back in 2001. 23 years ago. Still my favorite CD.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

Your music taste hasn't advanced to where you don't appreciate Linkin Park anymore, in 23 years? That's gotta be a record.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Careful with that edge dude.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Your music taste just never matured. It's ok though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I still like Linkin Park for sure but it's not like, the only thing I listen to.

I wouldn't say I listen to it any more often than it comes on the radio tbh.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Did you stop liking music you enjoyed as a kid?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Yes. Some music I liked as a kid turned out not to be good, because I mainly liked it cause I was a melodramatic kid and it spoke to the angsty emotions I had. Once I grew up a bit, Linkin Park started to seem childish. You don't like all the music you liked as a kid, do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I still listen to every cd I've ever owned since I was 11. That was 24 years ago. Some I've added to a Google playlist of just 400 some'odd songs. Yes, I do still like all the music I liked as a kid.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

https://genius.com/Linkin-park-guilty-all-the-same-lyrics

It's insane, even corporate hands is filthy They talk team and take the paper route All they think about is bank accounts, assets, and realty

Why is this childish?

Or you could look at Rebellion talking about recognizing the suffering of others

I like them more as an adult

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I thought we all agreed Linkin Park was NuMetal?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Yes, we did. But "was" is the keyword here. Classic rock has for many decades now often included things such as rock, folk and metal within it. Adding Nu-Metal more recently isn't a huge stretch.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Nothing like a good ole music genre debate. People acting like classic rock was "classic" the day it was recorded and ignoring all the other sub categories those 60s/70s/80s songs would have fallen into. Rock is a broad fucking category including every genre of rock under it including "nu-metal" and 20 year old music is now old, aka classic.

I remember hearing smells like teen spirit on my local classic rock station for the first time in the mid '00s and thinking this will rustle a few feathers. Its securely classic rock now lol. Even if it's grunge.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Linkin Park is traditional blues. See how that doesn't make sense? Same goes for "classic rock".

Can't just change a genre because something is old. It's genre is NuMetal. Always had been, always will be.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Then we're just muddying and obscuring every genre, which is ineffective for any purpose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The youngest Millennials are 28 now, I believe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I am 28 born in '95, I'm not really sure if I'm among the youngest millennials or the oldest zoomers

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

classic rock

Listen up, whippersnapper. When I was your age, this was considered the Nu kind of Metal.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

There are Zoomers who have children in school, so if the supposedly young generation is slowly turning 30, Millennials are ancient now.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yep, and it's fine. We'll all get old, let's just take care of each other and fix the planet.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Is Linkin Park hyphenated?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I've been told by the kids that American pie is a country song

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

linkin park is pop music

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

I take umbrage at them being called "classic rock." Classic rock is, to me, a specific genre of rock music from the 60s–80s, and it has a particular style and sound.

Throwing Green Day and Linkin Park in with the Eagles and Fleetwood Mac just makes the word "classic" meaningless.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

My guy, those weren't called classic rock when they were still new. They were just called rock back then.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Because different subgenres emerged, and "rock & roll" needed clarification. The new subgenres already had adjectives. Those same adjectives apply, to-day, and they will never become original-flavor rock & roll.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Old enough to remember when the first 'classic rock' stations started replacing 'oldies' stations. In those days, the 'classic' stations would play new music from old bands, and even brand new stuff from new bands. These days, a "1980's" station would never play a record from 1979 or 1990.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

I've got some bad news: in the '80s we had classic rock and it didn't include '80s music.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Yeah to me Classic Rock is 60's and 70's. Classic Rock is a genre not classic rock, rock which is classic, classic meaning it has stood the test of time. Linkin Park may be classic at this point, but they're not Classic Rock.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I guess I just mean that it has a particular sound. 80s is maybe too late, I agree, but there was some overlap.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

I think we'd have to differentiate what's considered classic from genres themselves. Rock's been around for about 70 years, so it makes sense that a classic era emerged about 20 or 30 years after that. You could see it as something of a golden age of the music. Punk started in the 70s, so if you want to call Green Day classic punk (although no one really uses that term) I think it'd fit.

Similarly if someone said classic ska I'd be thinking of 2nd wave, like the Specials, which is also about 20 years after the start of the genre.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (3 children)

Xaviera Hollander said this.

A man's not old until there are no women his own age he finds attractive.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

That has a very boomer-esque "wives are bad" vibe.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

You have no idea who Xaviera Hollander is, do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

None whatsoever. Looked her up, and it certainly changes the context!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Very much so!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Don't forget that nursing homes are full of people fucking

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Gerontophiles outplayed us all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

For me it was green day playing on the classic rock station. There's been many many other signs that I'm getting old but I can definitely remember that one.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

They're still making albums and have been for over 20 years.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So is Paul McCartney.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lol had this happen to me the other day.

Typically I play classic rock at work like the stones, Beatles, eagles, etc and no one bats an eye and sings along. I played a song off hybrid theory and my tech walked by and went “wow that’s a throw back!” I immediately had a mini midlife crisis. That album is almost 24 years old btw, and I still remember the day I bought it.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Turns out you can't run the race. The pace is too fast, you just won't last.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

In the end? I've given up...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

You should be breaking the habit, that can help when you feel numb

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