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Not that many people use email much anymore, but as you often need an email address to sign up for other shit... anyway, I need a better option than gmail, I'm sure you can appreciate why. Email is so old school at this point that most of the time I don't even think about it anymore.

Anyway, I need some email options that aren't gmail or otherwise attached to a billionaire. I'm not really interested in non-email methods of communication, I'm specifically asking about email.

Thanks in advance.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

tutanota is pretty good

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

I'm currently using Migadu. It's $20/year for their cheapest plan. They give you a lot of control over the email service, so it might not be the best if you're a noob. In fact, they require you bring a domain name. But, they let you create unlimited users, aliases, have fancy routing, etc.

https://purelymail.com/ looks interesting too. And is cheaper at $10/year.

If you do decide to get a custom domain, just some tips:

  • get something that ends in .net or even better .com because shitty companies with shitty IT departments will block other TLDs (I've had this happen with FedEx and my local garbage company). There is no spam folder for them, the email just explodes.
  • probably don't pick a domain with one of your names it in for better anonymity, unless I guess you have a popular last name? [email protected] looks cool, but consider if you want random sites like lemmy to have that data.
  • don't pick a homophone or weird word because at some point you'll have to speak your email to another human and it's really awkward to tell your bank that your email is [email protected] or [email protected] or was it [email protected]?

Also, the web interfaces of some of these other email services might not be as good as Gmail's UI. It helps to use an email client instead. Thunderbird is fine or you could use something simpler like claws-mail or even something like mutt.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (8 children)

Not that many people use email much anymore

Where do you live, because I want to go there immediately.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Riseup.net Private, free, encrypted

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago

Invite-only and no clear way to get said invites

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago
[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Disroot - A lot of people in the know about privacy seem to really like it.

Really though email is a bullshit communication medium and unless you're insisting on using GPG for every message and make sure your or other people's keys never got compromised I wouldn't rely on it.

Really hoping Dark Mail actually becomes a thing at some point. If it was that with locally stored encrypted email then email might actually be worth bothering with.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (4 children)

proton.

Proton unlimited comes with unlimited everything on proton pass, including disposable email addresses

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (2 children)

Proton have shown recently they are very much pro-cop and pro-trump and so aren't that private or worthwhile any more.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 days ago (2 children)

They're against censorship and in favor of free speech. If you hear about a VPN provider that blocks their users' access to certain things based on the owner's political beliefs that's a shitty VPN provider

Full disclosure. I'm not a fan of Trump. I'm just a free speech absolutist and even if I hate what someone has to say I think they should be allowed to say it.

There's already laws against threats, slander and libel and even doxing in some places.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

That is not the concern. The concern is that their free speech has indicated they support cops, which means they're more likely to be compliant. No one is talking about this speech here, but the content of it.

Also you aren't.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Alright then.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago

I've been a Proton customer for over 4 years and I'm leaving because of this. Don't use Proton.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The ProtonMail CEO recently said that Trump "fights for the little guy". I know that's not a substantial critique of their privacy policy or encryption standards, but I wouldn't trust a company that says something so baseless, divisive, and in support of a fascist oligarch.

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Honestly, I know this is entirely subjective, but I never liked the vibes from proton especially in the last year. I’m going to use my animal instincts and just avoid them.

That said, I really need new email service so looking at options

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 days ago

And frankly, even if he's not a facist himself, the CEO saying something that fucking stupid makes me think that you shouldn't trust him to run the slurpee machine at a 7-11, let alone something sensitive like your email.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use proton and for registering on different sites I usually use addy.io. Also, I recently found a new mail service that looks nice and might give it a try soon, disroot.org

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

ProtonPass will also generate aliases and forward the mail to your email account. But, as someone else mentioned, the CEO's politics seem sus.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 days ago

if you wanna forget privacy and subscribe to a proprietary startup instead, use hey mail because it just sorts well. otherwise just use proton like everyone else said

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

mailbox.org

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago

PurelyMail is a great indie mail service. I love them.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use Fastmail with my own domain. Not free, but worth it given how much I rely on my email/calendar. There's a 30-day free trial before committing though, so you can kick the tires before deciding.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

I second this. Fastmail has been a joy to use. Since the users are paying, the company has (less) incentives to enshittify. JMAP? Count me in!

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

I use proton for a while now, its been great and well supported. The proton pass lets you use unique emails to register too. Its paid, for that anyway. I've been in love, I still don't keep my passwords on it opposed to a USB drive, but some i've started to just out of simplicity and lack of need of serious security for those.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I use Tuta mail. It is entirely open source. There are both paid and free tiers. I started on a paid tier, then downgraded to free. I like the option of a usable free tier when money is tight. I use addy.io for aliases.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago (3 children)

How do you use email aliases or what do you find them useful for? I've played around with generating unique aliases for different websites I use, but I'm not sure I did anything useful with that setup. Normally, if I get spam I usually just hit the unsubscribe link and that's been sufficient. Currently, I just have 2 emails: one I use for businesses and such and one for random websites that I don't care too much about. Is having more aliases better?

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

While we're at it, anyone got a good site for temporary addresses that are basically used exactly once? And ideally don't immediately get flagged as spam addresses.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

https://www.byom.de/trashmails/

Decent functionality, and it didn't get flagged most of the time I used it.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

To DIY you can buy your own domain and attach it to any paid email provider, then you get an infinite amount of temporary addresses. e.g. if you own @ rumschlumpel.blahblahblah.org then you can create abc@ , xyz@ , abc123@ , etc. as much as you like.

Just about all the email provider suggestions in this thread have a paid tier that you can configure your own domain with.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

Mailbox.org already provides 3 different aliases even at the lowest tier, but I've already filled those with non-temporary aliases and I don't really want to pay three times as much just for throwaway-aliases ...

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

To add to this, Bitwarden integrates with a few of them so you can automatically generate a unique email on the fly when creating an entry for a site. (docs link)

I use Fastmail and use my own domain for about 90% of stuff. Sites I don't even want to have my domain get a [email protected] email autogenerated from the BW extension. It's pretty convenient once all setup.

For literal one-time use, I've generally had good luck with 10minutemail. I'm not sure how much it gets flagged as spam right away these days, but the nice thing about it being free is you can always try and find out for a particular site.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

TIL about the Bitwarden integration! Thanks!

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