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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

The article title is misleading. It's true that there are only two sexes, but Trump's order is concerning gender, which is a spectrum.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (4 children)

There's are scientifically more than two sexes. Something like 1-2% of all people are intersex.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Intersex people popping out of existence upon reading your comment

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Male and female are the only sexes; intersex is just a blanket term for various medical conditions that describe abnormal development of sex characteristics.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (2 children)

So you're saying if you call a sex abnormal, it doesn't exist?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (11 children)

I always find it weird that conservatives think this is some kind of gotcha for binary trans people. Like, okay, this is a shitty thing to say to nonbinary or intersex people and is both untrue and cruel. But how is this relevant to me, a binary trans woman?

Like.. hello my gender isn't 'trans', it's 'woman'. Idiots.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

First they came for the enbies

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

In fairness part of the decree is that it also can't be changed, so definitely still an impact to both binary and nonbinary trans folks. Also love the downplay of enby impacts, if it doesn't impact you it doesn't matter?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Read my post before you reply to it. Thanks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

How does your post contradict what they said? You asked how it impacts a binary trans person, and they explained that the part about it being unchangeable is supposed to target y'all (and all trans people).

I know a lot of us, probably most of us, haven't changed so much as taken ownership of who we always were. So yeah I guess technically this order isn't a "gotcha", but unfortunately that's not how transphobes see it. :(

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago

They did and you're being unnecessarily rude.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

This is an executive order, not a law. That doesn't make it any less terrible, however. Those commenting it is just political posturing are seriously misinformed at the wide range and scope this action will (not might, not could, WILL) have on you. Anything even tangentially related to getting work done, grants made, research funded with the federal government will be effected. In brief, the scope and impact of an executive order can vary greatly depending on the specific issue and the details of the order itself. This one will likely be meant to ensure that grant making, contracts, research, and legal recourse for those not subscribing to it's narrow and, frankly, archaic definitions will have a very difficult time interacting with the federal government in a variety of ways.

The bright side is an Executive Order effects federal branches of government under authority of the presidency. They can be undone by future presidents and challenged/overturned after judicial review. Remember the "Muslim ban?" That was one example.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (9 children)
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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Many hugs. We'll get through this.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Jfc this is going to affect intersex people more than trans people.

We were just at the cusp of addressing how fucked up fitting intersex people into one of two boxes is.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

this will more than likely get dragged through the courts for the entire term by multiple cases.

plus there's all the legislation that would have to be rewritten or repealed to support this 'policy', that would never get through congress without a larger moron majority than exists currently.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Legal laws can't change scientifically established theory. If he wants to do some unbiased research though...

...he'd probably prove himself wrong

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (2 children)

He's probably going to sign an order to make everyone be nice to him next.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Yes, unironically.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (4 children)

Ok.

He's wrong and we'll all just ignore him and continue existing.

Medical science will continue showing that sex isn't and never has been a binary either.

Laws can't override nature.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

yeah, it's fine. this is all just political theater and posturing.

just use another name/ term for sex and move on.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Or better yet get rid of the whole concept and be specific to body parts etc.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Doesn't stop politicians from trying...

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Problem is this means that things we were hoping to get like having hormone replacement therapy actually approved by the FDA for use for transgender care will not happen and any enforcement of anti-discrimination or laws against hate speech at the federal level will no longer apply to trans and non-binary people. This will allow, for example, insurance companies to not have to cover transgender care. There is already a huge waiting list for people who are seeking care in the US due to the lack of specialists (myself included), so that list is likely to get longer. And likely any doctors who might have been planning to take up transgender care specialties may have their programs lose their funding. It's a huge impact to a lot of areas of government and many industries to have the federal government not recognize transgender care as valid and not recognize non-binary people like me as people at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Thank you for the correction and expansion.

Hoping people will start making their own hormones etc. I understand the rest is shit though and I hope we can all start looking after each other instead.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If they could read they’d have some strong feelings about this reality

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

The ability to read or not does not have anything to do with how much knowledge one can acquire, there are many ways to acquire knowledge.

Don't be ableist and harm people that don't deserve it please.

These people are just willfully ignorant fascists who think they can control reality

No need to ascribe any other features onto them that don't and won't harm them but will harm others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It’s a reference to a joke from King of the Hill.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago

Okay, doesn't change it being ableist though.

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