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Chinese social media app RedNote, known in China as Xiaohongshu, gained nearly 3 million U.S. users in one day earlier this week as a flood of self-proclaimed "TikTok Refugees" joined, according to new data from analytics firm Similarweb.

The Chinese-language app had about 3.4 million daily active users across both iOS and Android devices in the United States as of Monday, up from fewer than 700,000 the day prior, and around 300,000 the week prior, according to the Similarweb estimate.

The influx of users has been driven by a looming U.S. ban on TikTok, used by 170 million Americans, on national security concerns.

The data suggests an even larger shift to RedNote by U.S. users this week than was previously known, explaining its dramatic rise to the top of U.S. app store download rankings. Reuters reported on Tuesday that more than 700,000 new users had joined the app in only two days.

Meanwhile, U.S. usage of TikTok declined ahead of the ban, down 2.1% week over week to about 82.2 million daily active users, Similarweb said.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Not for me but seems like a win overall? People are generally far less willing to hurt/fight people they know well compared to some nebulous concept of a nation. If American and Chinese people get to know eachother in a social setting it can only be a good thing.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

If only there was a no button...

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

But why would any legitimate app ask for a permission for which there is practically no legitimate use? I thought Rednote was a social media thing, not a Caller application, so why does it need to make and manage phone calls on my behalf?

What else is it doing that it doesn't need to ask permissions for? Please think critically.

And yes before someone mentions It, yes this can be used for getting a phone number automatically, but It can just prompt for my phone number (which it doesn't need anyway, unless you post), no legitimate need to ask for such a broad permission.

More to the point, why tf are y'all so chill about this? Surely this is like literally a sign of malware 101? Like I'm only a compsci & cybersec grad so what do I know, but this to me is equivalent to opening "not a virus.exe" from "veryrealmoviedownload.com". Literally first malware I got as a kid on Android was like this.

I thought awareness of this was pretty commonplace. The below image is literally a Facebook-tier meme that even grampa probably knows.

Are y'all just that desperate for a win? Sorry, good things don't actually happen in our hell world.

Is this a normal thing for apps to do these days? I don't use any other SM apart from Lemmy and only F-Droid FOSS apps so i'd legitimately like to know. Does tiktok also prompt for making and managing phone calls?

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Basically every mainstream social media apps do want your contacts these days, yes. Obviously bad for OPSEC so you should avoid them if you're worried about that even after blocking those permissions.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago

Thousands of people download this shit too.

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[–] [email protected] 35 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

It's surprisingly easy to agitate over there, being a leftist on the western internet and especially reddit is like training your arguing skills in a high-gravity environment. I'm accustomed to maneuvering around such unrelenting hostility that the friendliness of rednote is shocking to me.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It honestly sounds a lot like Hexbear. Made a rednote account today, but I've never used tiktok or instagram before, so the entire thing was kinda inscrutable for me lol, but I'm so glad that this is where the tiktok exodus is heading.

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

DON’T 👏 INSTALL 👏 小红书 — It gave me third degree Havana syndrome, which my health insurance won’t cover.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 2 weeks ago

If the CIA agents in Havana don't get Cuban healthcare benefits, they should just quit.

[–] [email protected] 40 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The fear is ridiculous. Yes it's somewhat sanitised, all social media is sanitised. Shit even on lemmy large instances are going to remove a video of me showing how to inject heroin or, for a more moderate thing, explain how trans people can DIY hormones.

It is good when people from different cultures share stuff. It is good when state barriers break down and people see how we're all so similar at the end of the day.

[–] [email protected] 23 points 2 weeks ago

Yes it’s somewhat sanitised, all social media is sanitised.

And it's all sanitized for good reason - the closest places to unsanitized, such as freespeechextremist, are literally just spambots, molesters, troll neo-nazis and people mechanically incapable of holding a conversation without bursting into nonsense screeds in all caps. Effectively, just the people no-one else wants to talk to.

As for the RedNote sanitizing, some of the ones I've seen newcomers getting tripped up on are rules which would make our local social media better. They seem aimed at countering grifters/influencers, sexualization for popularity (not being a prude, rather, there are plenty of other places for that content) and similar negative trends associated with TikTok.

[–] [email protected] 74 points 3 weeks ago (13 children)

This is the first time americans are talking directly to chinese people en masse like this, no? The state department must be scrambling to get things in order. I don't think they expected the ban to backfire this bad lol

Wonder how long it'll last before it's closed off.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

Now I don't know what to believe.

I guess I should look at all the foreigners who think the US is some lawless wasteland and not be surprised Americans have similar misconceptions about other nations.

[–] [email protected] 27 points 2 weeks ago

Chinese Rednote users actually seem to have a relatively utopian view of the US. I'm seeing alot of posts asking if it's true that most Americans can afford to own a house and being corrected by americans in the comments; stuff like that.

Also they really like Luigi Mangione lol, even before americans came into the app.

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The consent machine is pulling triple shifts to convince people this is dangerous, and some people even on this site have so thoroughly doomer-pilled themselves that they can't see the positives. I've been on there a lot this week and there is a real cultural exchange taking place, a lot of people asking questions about what it's really like to live in each country. Just in my little slice I've seen dozens of comments from USians expressing that they are surprised to learn the reality of life in China and that they feel they have been deliberately mislead.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The consent machine is pulling triple shifts to convince people this is dangerous

seeing it nakedly displayed live on colbert, the daily show, and kimmel was mind blowing to me; are they panicking?

[–] [email protected] 19 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

I'll look around to see if I can find those show segments online, but as for 'are they panicking?', mass media has a vested interest in influencing public opinion (that's effectively the only reason a private business bothers with news) and therefore control over public opinion. If the people who own the show and the channel give orders, the writers and actors probably won't risk getting fired. (oh, and obligatory quick clip to demonstrate what ownership looks like, for those who haven't seen it: "This Is Extremely Dangerous to Our Democracy")

So, with that in mind, recall the reactions of almost all mass media to the UnitedHealthcare assassination: consistent critique and denouncement. Surely this wasn't how all the news anchors felt, given how positive general opinion was! The people with ownership and executive power over these media channels obviously don't want the idea of citizens shooting the dangerously rich and powerful to get popular, so we saw their ideas echoed in all the news.

Compare that to here: media channels outside of China don't really want that counter-narrative to gain traction. It goes against their inherent interest of influencing public opinion, it's a competitor which all the biggest media companies can agree to call bad news. So I have no doubt this unexpected and surprising turn would make them panic.

edit: the clips I found from Colbert and The Daily Show were a surprisingly mixed bag. For example, this Daily Show clip comes off more as a satirical jab at the US than any panic.

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[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Everybody there is so nice

[–] [email protected] 38 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 weeks ago (3 children)

Just so you know, PRC is not a very inclusive place. Have a look at this article for more info.

[–] [email protected] 28 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

As of at least 2023, Chinese public attitudes towards the LGBTQI community continues to become increasingly favorable.

Literally all that "article" says is that China has its issues but is making progress in the right direction.

The important thing is that LGBT people in China can and do currently live free, safe, and open lives, and that the state is consistently moving towards providing queer people with further right and protections.

[–] [email protected] 26 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah they have a long way to go like most of the world; wish they'd just copy Cuba and the GDR on that.

Also you'd be better served with a specific documentary like this one instead of just lazily linking to wikipedia.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A crowd sourced encyclopedia is only as trustworthy as the editors that control the page. I wouldn't trust wikipedia for anything to do with geopolitics or current affairs any more than I would trust any other mainstream media source.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 3 weeks ago (2 children)

That’s why encyclopedia’s list their sources?

[–] [email protected] 27 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Honestly since I've learned about how the Chinese people seem to be taking it and really like the interaction with "us" I've been more interested in checking out weibo. That seems more similar to this and is more about communicating instead of pictures and videos of specific topics.

Just can't make an account for some reason lol keep getting errors in Chinese even though I'm using the international site lol

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 weeks ago

Yeah seems like Rednote is specifically centered around lifestyle and art while Weibo and Baidu are for general use

[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

The saddest downvotes are the “shoot the messenger” downvotes. I find this fact inconvenient so

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 weeks ago

i need to figure out how to make the rick & morty "your boos mean nothing to me; i've seen what makes you cheer" meme more accessible somehow for this exact reason. lol

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