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• Concerns rise as Neuralink fails to provide evidence of brain implant success, raising safety and transparency questions.

• Controversy surrounds Neuralink's lack of data on surgical capabilities and alarming treatment of monkeys with brain implants.

• While Neuralink touts achievements, experts question true innovation and highlight developments in other brain implant projects.

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[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (11 children)
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[–] [email protected] 75 points 8 months ago (5 children)

Stupid article as it implies that doctors are concerned for a specific reason related to the subject’s health but it’s just background about this shitty experiment and how it can be dangerous. Regardless, I can’t believe someone volunteered for this and am unfortunately expecting documented issues in the future.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 8 months ago (2 children)

If my option was never move again and this would let me control a computer then I wouldn't care about the risk

[–] [email protected] 20 points 8 months ago

The results are in. You now feel as if you are constantly moving. You aren't, but it sure feels that way. Forever.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

i'd do it for money. Not much to fuck up with my brain

[–] [email protected] 74 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Remember how they couldn't get the cyber truck to not rust? Or the bullet proof windows to work? Or how the milage for most Tesla's was impossible, so people thought their cars were broken, and instead of either confessing or fixing the mileage they created an elaborate scheme to cancel appointment so people couldn't get their batteries looked at? These are the people you trusted to put a chip in your brain...

[–] [email protected] 36 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I think it would be a lot more reasonable to expect undocumented issues. They have a lot to lose and it's controlled by a billionaire. As if they're not going to try to cover it up.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 8 months ago

They will try to cover it up for sure. IMO Either it will “silently end” after myriad health issues or there will be big public exposures.

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago

The subject is hunched over and drooling inside a padded cell, mumbling "we hope this email finds you well", over, and over, and over again...

[–] [email protected] 78 points 8 months ago (9 children)

I really wonder about the Doctors associated with this. How are they squaring things with their Hippocratic oath? This just seems really close to the ethical line, maybe over it. Nothing about how musk is treating this surprises me. But is everyone working on this also an unethical twat? Kind of scary to think that might be true.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 8 months ago

But is everyone working on this also an unethical twat? Kind of scary to think that might be true

People with the Power to do cruel things always find cruel people to do their bidding. Especially when they can justify it with science or it's "for the better of humanity". Even if every rational out stander is horrified by their doings.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Well, it's possible that it was a robot doctor, kinda doubt they took a Hippocratic oath

[–] [email protected] 6 points 8 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if there somehow were a cover-up of safety and efficacy of these devices.

[–] [email protected] 51 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (10 children)

In 1973 the U.S. Supreme Court rejected the Hippocratic Oath saying it didn't cover the latest developments in medical practice.

I'm just... gonna go scream into a pillow in the corner now.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 8 months ago (1 children)

The Helsinki declaration https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_Helsinki

Is the reference for health sciences these days.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 8 months ago

This appears to be more geared towards experimentation. Super interesting and more relevant to the article for sure though!

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[–] [email protected] 37 points 8 months ago (2 children)

The Hippocratic Oath is not a legally binding oath, and many doctors are not required to take this oath or any oath for that matter. Basically, at the end of the day, oaths only matter to the people who have the strength of character to hold to them no matter the cost and most people do not have that strength of character. Oaths mean nothing to those people when it comes down to it, it's just a thing that you said once, nothing more.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago

Oh I know all that, but still...

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 8 months ago (1 children)

There are way less extreme example of doctors just fucking things up for a bag of money.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 8 months ago

And more in general, humans. Imagine if Clarence Thomas had taken medicine instead of law when he was young

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[–] [email protected] 27 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I wouldn't want monkeylink in my head if it was done by musk's people. I'd rather have an expert neurosurgeon and the ones I know, who work in deep brain stimulation, they wrote off neuralink as bad tech a decade ago.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago

Oh no shit.

Anyway

[–] [email protected] 65 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (2 children)

So the gov wants to claim the FDA did not regulate mifepristone hard enough, but this is perfectly fine. What a world.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Claiming the schizophrenic US govt WANTS anything is dubious. Most of their attention is focused on fighting each other

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[–] [email protected] 42 points 8 months ago (1 children)

"The government" doesn't want to argue that. Some idiot politicians do.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

The courts gave the idiots an injunction, so while you are right they are not exactly claiming it, they are claiming it is likely true.

And the courts are (a part) of the gvt last time I checked.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 8 months ago
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