as a Dutchy, this confuses me greatly
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Trains solve traffic issues
Elon brings shame to autists everywhere by not knowing about trains
Gregory does not have enough trains in his neighbourhood
yeah, the Netherlands is so nice with that, you bike to a station for 10 minutes and then its a 2 hour train ride to go anywhere in the country
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If you are not disabled in anyway and still need to take a transport bigger than a bicycle to buy basic groceries, the design of the city you live in is fundamentally broken.
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Taking a train to the grocery store only seems absurd to people who have never experienced a really efficient rail system.
You get what you pay for.
I used to take the train to the grocery store. It was called the red line in Chicago
In Tokyo I'd hop on the subway regularly to shop. Not a big deal at all.
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Introducing:the tramway!
Wait until they hear about the Bus. But probably is for the best they don't, their head would explode at the thought
Bro, I can walk 1 mile to the grocery store and 1 mile back. That's roughly an hour including shopping. I have a disability on my right foot so I'm slow moving.
I can walk 1/2 a mile to the bus stop and spend another 20-30 min to the store, so around 2 or more hours.
I can drive there in 5 minutes.
Cars are not the solution and are terrible for the environment but many people don't have other options
Ok, but imagine this: you work a mile or two from your house, with bus stops every two blocks, and they come every 5 minutes. That walk to your house passes a grocery store, several bakeries, a small hardware store, and most other places you'd need to go day to day. On one side of this main Street is a park, on the other is a few blocks of homes and businesses before you get to a parking garage next to the highway - all the roads inside the community have low speed limits and little parking, so there's not much traffic.
If you qualify for handicap placards you can park on the street, a few parking passes can do the same, but are hard to get because they're auctioned off. Most people leave their cars in the parking garage if they don't need them, they might park near their building to unload large amounts of stuff, but after they take it back to the lot. People at the stores in the community don't generally buy more than will fit in a personal cart or a backpack, because they're so close and convenient
It's actually way more convenient, because you don't have parking lots everywhere. Instead stores, offices, and housing of all levels of affordability is all mixed together, so you just give priority to people who can't walk far, and everyone else just has a couple staircases or a couple blocks further to go
And it's not just a dream, I spent a summer living in a place that worked exactly like this
Your problem is with infrastructure
It should be designed for people who can’t drive
Generally those physically capable of driving are better off not driving than those who physically can’t drive
A mile on a bike should take about 5 minutes too.
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People really need to commute for groceries? Like, I have the store 1 block away. Americans don't know they can walk?
Food deserts are a thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_desert
They impact millions of people.
Yeah, it's fucked up.
TIL
I usually stop at a grocery store on my commute, but if I just need something real quick I just walk to one of the three grocery stores down the street, but loading up the car on the way home is just much easier
Most Americans leave too far away from any supermarket, even if there were roads that could take you there, either by walking or cycling.
It turns out that, despite allegations to the contrary, the United States is actually small. Like, really, really tiny. We just don't have the room to put supermarkets in places near where people live.
I say it's a business opportunity, why don't Americans just open a small general store in their residential areas? Not everything need to come from a supermarket, here we have people that literally sell you vegetables in a rented garage.
Seems like the only acceptable usage of garages for you people are tech startups and maybe teenager bands lol.
I hope the answer is not "due to some obtuse regulation, residential areas can't have business operating in any shape or form, unless is a tech startup or an ice cream truck".
It's not obtuse regulation, it's explicitly by design. In most places in the US, you cannot operate a business in a residential area that serves the public. Businesses that do not do serve the public (like a tech startup or someone working from home) are fine. Ice cream trucks are also not allowed unless you have a proper business license / permit.
That laws sounds exactly like obtuse regulation to me. Why you cannot have a grocery store in your neighborhood? I really can't think of a good reason. If there is a case for ice cream trucks, proper business license/permit and all that, it makes even less sense for other business types.
C'mon, you really need to commute to the supermarket to buy some bananas? That's nonsense.
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Zoning laws and NIMBYs
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Well if they leave so far why don't they return?
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This dude jokes but when I lived in Harlem I’d take the subway to Columbus circle Whole Foods as it was significantly easier than commuting to the east side on 125 to pathmark.