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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Not only on american citizens...

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[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, so prepare for battle between people who want to tell you that their empire is better.

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[–] [email protected] 59 points 2 days ago (23 children)

Tiktok got banned not for peddling "chinese propaganda" but instead not peddling the US one.

All the major tech companies in the US take measures to ensure content deemed unworthy by the government never become mainstream or viral.

This is done under the pretense of stopping "hate speech" or "terroristic propaganda" but often include things like pro-palestinian content or class struggle content (like luigi mangione stuff).

Tiktok was bold enough to not do that by default, cuz they wanted someone to ask them to do this and then it would become a huge scandal about how the US suppresses free speech. And US gov don't want to do that for this exact reason as well. So they decided to ban it.

Remember talks for this "law" were initiated when all of a sudden tiktok became a host for pro-palestinian voices. We should ask ourselves, how is it that 60% of americans want the government to stop arms sales to israel but this 60% never shows up on the big social media platforms. But on other platforms like here in lemmy and tiktok, pro-palestinians is the majority.

For further reading, listen to employees fired from big US tech companies for voicing their concerns over the palestine issue, or read Meta's new terms and conditions specially the section on "dangerous organizations and individuals".

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 days ago (11 children)

They track the location of people in the US and gather large amounts of data. They didn't get banned for refusing to spread US propaganda.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

So does facebook, twitter, google, microsoft, and pretty much every mobile app development shop.

[–] [email protected] 39 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Not to defend tiktok (to this day I have not ever used it), but if the issue is the tracking and data collection, you could ban/regulate that specifically instead of singling out the app.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 days ago

Ding ding ding

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That’s what they’re telling you, and since when are they telling the truth?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Facebook does the same tracking and data harvesting. Is Facebook up to be banned? It isn't the tracking and data harvesting.

Person 1: I think it's because the tracking and data harvesting

Person 2: that's an obvious lie (see above)

You: I think aliens did it

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Lol @ america being the only non-chinese country in the world

[–] [email protected] 49 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah but not Facebook and Twitter and other American ones. Right?

[–] [email protected] 23 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (3 children)

You're on the Fediverse. Most of the people here are already actively avoiding Facebook and Xitter. Unfortunately, getting the US, EU, etc. to ban American propaspyware companies is, uh, extremely unlikely. China, however, has banned them long ago, which is why I don't see why people think it's hypocritical of the US government to ban Chinese social media.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 2 days ago (4 children)

But they claim that China banning the apps is authoritarian. The hypocrisy isnt in banning the app, it's in their claims about motivation to do so.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Try saying negative stuff about China on .ml I doubt that they are not completely undermined by the Chinese intelligence. (They delete every post critical about china).

So being vigilant is the only way to avoid getting manipulated.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 days ago

I haven't seen a proof of intelligence on .ml yet.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

.ml might just be useful idiots tbh. But I remember speedrunning an /r/sino ban and that took me all of 1 minute, with a comment that wasn't even critical about China. It was a thread about how it's awesome that the west can't live without China for 5G connectivity and I said that "maybe it isn't all that great that an entire industry has been entirely centralized to one country" just to see if an absolutely lukewarm take would get banned. It did.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, it's strange. Like even slight criticism. I mean that's okay, but what about actual constructive discussions? None!

If you are not allowed to criticize a system, that system is inheritly flawed. But that's my personal take on this.

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[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 days ago

Except they've banned 1 source for appeasement rather than enact a strong law or policy for long-term safety.

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