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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I have news for everyone ITT: TikTok is not leaving the US. A friend works in their North America business division, and they are fully planning to split off a satellite company that is (at least nominally) US-based and compliant with local law. They have been working on the transition for many months.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

The interest your domestic and foreign corporate social media platforms have in you are VASTLY different. It's naive to equivocate them. Yes, TikTok should get "banned", which will just be pulling the app from the app store and likely still available as a web app maybe through a VPN. They're just going to create more friction in getting access.

Instead of advocating for spyware, perhaps we should be highlighting open alternatives?

[–] [email protected] 71 points 2 days ago (4 children)

Imagine cheering that your government decided witch social media are you allowed to use.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 days ago (13 children)

Imagine ~~using~~ ~~being unfathomably addicted to~~ trusting an app parented and developed in a country where you can't criticize your leaders.

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[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Well yeah, but it's the US government which hasn't ever done anything problematic before. I'm sure it's for everyone's best interest. /S

Which if that were true, still wouldn't matter.

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (4 children)

Fuck you. I'm going to RedNote. Purely out of spite. Because I'd rather dropship my DNA to the Communist Party of China HQ than give my data to Zucc or Elon.

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[–] [email protected] 74 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (7 children)

There is sooooo much weird conspiracy shit in these comments. The government is banning TikTok becuase they collect too much data and the Chinese government could eaisly get access to all of it. The correct thing to do would be to regulate data collection but that would be problematic for Google, Meta, Microsoft, Apple..etc etc... so instead they just ban TikTok. All this TikTok refusing to spread deep state US govt propaganda horse shit is a bit past nuts.

[–] [email protected] 17 points 2 days ago (11 children)

This is a pretty sane explanation.

I'm also at least partially convinced that it's motivated by our social media giants' interest to "think of the children" their competition away.

Seeing as the order was basically "Get bought by an American corpo or get banned." They either plunder the competitor's insane data collection, userbase, and profits, or kick them off their corner.

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 days ago

I mean occams razor is the best way to feel sane in the disinformation age so im with you. But i think its more accruate to do our best understand what is possible and suspend holding a specific belief like that because it doesnt matter if you are right or wrong. Many things could be true at the same time, especially with who you ask.

Kind of makes our conversations worthless, which i think is the strategy of disinformation. We cant know, so should we really be claiming whats true or not? Seems like we should just offer what seems most likely rather than tell everyone they are wrong unless you have information sources to help them understand why they are likely wrong.

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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Since this is the place for the most serious discussion:

If US lawmakers focused on protecting American's privacy with some sensible privacy laws coughGDPR equivalent cough, we could avoid pulling out the ban hammer to play whack-a-mole on these companies.

Companies would simply be punished by the law for being malicious or irresponsible with your data, forcing industries to take privacy seriously and make investments in protecting and not leaking it.

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[–] [email protected] 75 points 2 days ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 days ago (9 children)

Both are bad, one is worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago

Polly wants a cracker

[–] [email protected] 29 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I hope you mean Google, they track you all over the web whether you want to be tracked or not just because lazy web developers can't be bothered to host their own fonts (and other ways but that's just one example). You have to deliberately download or use TikTok for them to get your data.

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