Palestine
A community for everything related to Palestine and the occupation currently underway by the occupying force known as Israel.
Anti-Zionism is not anti-Semitism. Existence is resistance for Palestinians.
Please refer to Israel as Occupied Palestine, or occupied territories. The IDF is a fascist and ethnonationalist occupying force. Israelis are settlers. We understand however that the imperial narrative (which tries to legitimise Israel) is internalised in the imperial core and slip-ups are naturally expected.
We always take the sides of Palestine and Palestinians and are unapologetic about it. Israel is an occupying power whose "defence force"'s (note the contradiction) sole purpose for existing is to push Palestinians out so they can resettle their rightful land. If you have anything positive to say about Israel we do not care.
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I don't understand how you don't understand those questions. Maybe try answering the questions asked before we lay out more words that we can get hung up on (the limits of language and all)
This is clear, succinct 4th grade English.
What I'm saying, is if Israel is such a good "friend" to America, why do we not see Israel present in any part of the 2000-2024 photo album? I mean, the UK, Canada, Australia, NZ, Italy, Germany, France...theyve all sent troops towards Americas world policing.
Why hasn't our good friend? In my circles, helping friends with their goals, is FUNDAMENTAL to friendship. So I'm questioning if Israel is a friend in anything OTHER than word.
And the UN. Israel votes with the US 99% of the time, I suppose. If the cost of that is the US accepting Zionist genocide than the cost of that friendship is too expensive, in my opinion.
Israel doesn't need to participate in every single military adventure to be America's ally. I mean, this is the country which has received more than 150 billion dollars in American military aid. More than any other country ever. What do you think they get this money for?
As for how Israel helps American interests in the region
Israel helped with Stuxnet. I recalled that earlier today. So there's that and the lockstep UN vote.
The hostility that comes from questioning Israel is going to push impressionable people to the far right. We've already seen this kind of shit with Bannon and Trump, y'all apologists need to come at people who are earnestly asking better, or you're simply engineering the next Holocaust.
I'm not threatening, don't be daft. The fastest way to make more terrorists is to kill their family....fucking DUH.
I'm anti-genocide, not anti-israel, UNLESS Israel decides that its firmly PRO-genocide. Then the oppressed becomes the oppressors and y'all forgotten every meaningful lesson to be learned and just shut down all higher reasoning beyond might makes right.
Ffs, what are y'all doing? Do you not see what I'm saying? Have you become blind to zeitgeist? When you're a hammer, all you see are nails, and frankly boss, ya need to see more. A question is a question not a condemnation. I'll conclude an opinion at the end of discourse, thank you.
I'd say that's smuglord-grade english.
We? Maybe you. The zionist colonial project has always been openly hostile to its non-western-aligned neighbours since it's inception, and still is. It also has cooperated with ISIS (alongside the US) to the detriment of the rest of West Asia/Africa. Who cares if they're not in NATO. It's not a necessary condition for US vassals to send troops wherever US directly does war (for example, Japan and ROK).
Lastly, please don't use metaphors. The reply you got was basically about that. Metaphors have no place when describing the real world. They obscure meaning.
I won't discuss further.
Correct, in my part of the world smuglord ends at 5th grade. I don't think I've heard the term since either.
Higher reasoning is almost done entirely in metaphor and comparison. If you have done any of that, you would know that. Language fails us pretty quickly in fact. We do what we can with what we got. It is what it is. If that's not good enough for you, there's the void for you to despairingly yell into. Don't take too long tho, I got some shit I need to scream into that void too.
Did referencing Nietzsche there go to far?
I am not the preson you are replying to, I do have one comment I want to bring up about the use of Metaphors, I would agree that in the instance above they only where used to obfuscate the meaning, and can often be used to no real benifit, they can and do sometimes have real power in helping people understand
That was more my point. I was trying to give this person the benefit of the doubt and just tell me their actual position directly in plain english, but like any true debatebro, they don't actually hold a position apart from contrarianism and smugness.