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An overview of the recent losses by the Russian air force and overall situation for their readiness. Kind of a follow-up on some questions I asked on other posts here.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

Its more likely it's the patriot or updated s200.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (4 children)

It could be a large rock. It works for crazy people on freeway overpasses and it can't be fooled by chaff or flares. A rock is a rock and it will do rock things. Like nothing. You wouldn't want nothing to happen to your flying jet do you?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Belta lowdah knows the way. Send the rock sa sa, que no?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I almost hope putin goes out with a rock. It could be a small one right to the head. It could be a 400lb one anywhere on the body really. Sure if the US could fucking donate an F16 with a rock delivery bay door, that would be great 😃. But otherwise, hey if rocks are available, rocks are the weapon.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I hope Putin ends up having to go into hiding after the country and the oligarchs turn against him because the three day war hits 3 years and the money dries up.

Then when he's captured he has to endure a trial while one of the oligarchs goes full capitalist, becomes president to organize a treaty with Ukraine, all sanctions are removed, borders are restored, trade strengthens the region so the people can prosper and Putin has to watch his dream of conquest disappear.

Then Putin gets shot by a firing squad. The end.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

@normanwall @werefreeatlast
Pure fantasy, but quite an appealing one. Putin's successor has already been selected by Putin and his inner circle. He has been shadowing Putin since before the war. He is a political clone of Putin. When Putin dies the transition will be seamless.
Putin will be remembered as a Hero of Russia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Do you have a photo of the guy? That's probably the first step in killing the guy. I do have to agree though, it will take more persuasion to improve capitalism in ruzzia.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

@werefreeatlast
No photo. I haven't heard that there are any circulating.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

had to scroll up to make sure i wasnt on NCD

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Just watch out for paper.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Can I have some of what you’re on?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Y’all want some of this rock?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

U saw har far behind the lines the latest big fuck off command plane thing was. Seems awfully long distance to be a missile.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

Missle tech has come really far. for example, thaad has a flight ceiling of 93 miles, and the tomahawk land attack missle has a range of 1550 miles.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

S-200 can do that distance though. Has a range out to 150 miles. They're gigantic.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Yes, I'm just surprised they still have those. They are really in a bad shape right now and these few downed airplanes don't mean much.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

these few downed airplanes don't mean much

The article is talking about a possible death spiral of the Russian air force. I think that means something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (2 children)

A lot of hopium. Same stuff we heard since the start of the war. First it was food, then equipment, then shells, troops, missiles,... And looking at the the Russian army today it's fed, well equipped, as many shells as they need, new drones, missiles in production, planes in production. Not to mention new motivation as they see the west faltering in their resolve to help Ukraine. Russia is in war economy, unfortunately it's not running out of anything anytime soon. They are not that stupid and will adapt if the losses become unmanageable.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

And looking at the the Russian army today it’s fed, well equipped,

Lol, no, it is not

Too many deserters showing up severely malnourished for that to be the case

Too many documented cases of unusable or plain fake equipment, like plastic helmets, or artillery rounds missing propellant, rusted rifles, etc

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

So victory in a few weeks? Nice!

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I guess if you just ignore the fact that Ukraine has downed 11 (+?) planes in the past 11 days, maybe you could call that sentiment hopium.

I do agree, things aren't looking great with the US (not the whole West, by the way) delaying aid. But what was supposedly the second greatest military in the world is stuck in a quagmire with a neighboring country a fraction of its size. They are making only minor progress at enormous cost.

It's a waiting game. Neither of us have the facts about what is actually happening with the Russian military or economy. Saying that, I don't think you can dismiss the recent losses by Russia as insignificant.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm not ignoring these legit military successes, I'm saying that we can't expect them to continue until Russia is out of planes.

The fact that Ukraine has stood up to Russia for so long means nothing if they lose in the end. And right now Ukraine is losing. It's losing lives and land and its only losing because we in the west didnt and still don't fulfill our promises and our obligations and our leaders pussy foot around what weapons to send.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago

The US only stopped sending as much aid because of Russian assets in Congress. Lame way of trying to make it seem like the Budapest accords weren't unilaterally violated by one of the signatories.