Marc Benioff
He's the CEO and co-founder of San Francisco-based Salesforce, one of the world's largest software companies, which owns the popular messaging service Slack and is worth nearly $300 billion. He also owns Time magazine.
When I ask Benioff about the properties in the anonymous LLCs, things seem to take a turn. He starts speaking more quickly and fidgets with a piece of paper in his hand. He's reluctant to go through the holdings, and his adviser on the Zoom call jumps in to say we can discuss later.
A couple of days before the interview, Benioff texted the same NPR colleague again, asking for intel on my story. Then he called me and demanded to know the title of this piece. During that call, he also mentioned he knew the exact area where I was staying. Unnerved, I asked how he knew, and he said, "It's my job. You have a job and I have a job." During the interview, he brings up more personal details about me and my family.
I leave the meeting disconcerted and still unclear about what exactly is happening with his land in Waimea.
The following day, I drive around with a photographer to take pictures of the town and Benioff's projects. We go to the property he described as a community center and are confronted by one of his employees. The photographer explains we're there to take photos of the outside of the building. Shortly afterward, I get a text from Benioff. His employee seemed to think we were "snooping," and he says he's escalating the incident to NPR CEO John Lansing. Lansing confirmed he spoke with Benioff, without going into detail — the NPR newsroom operates independently, and the CEO is not involved in editorial decision-making. Benioff didn't respond to my question about the purpose of this call.
I'm quite left leaning.
But there's always going to be extremists either way, and just blanketly saying everyone with money is evil is moronic/extremist left.
It's also ironic you mention Stalin because that turned out so well... 😅.
I would say not all millionaires are bad because not all of them gain their wealth through exploitive practices. Plenty of them are just retirees that have worked all their lives and shouldn’t have to work anymore anyways.
On the other hand, it’s literally impossible to become a billionaire without exploiting a truly absurd number of people. It’s that scale of exploitation that makes billionaires categorically a plague on society. If you can’t see that then you’re certainly not left leaning in any sense.
I agree that they do get there by exploiting people sure.
Is there a difference between someone like Jeff bezos and Bill Gates though? If you say no then I can't help you. If you can see the difference then we can continue the discussion because exploiting people at one stage in your life and then trying to make up for it later is inherently good in my opinion.
Put another way, do you think once you're a criminal you're always a criminal? There is no chance of redemption and of being a good person?
Yes, Bill Gates has better PR. That’s literally it. He’s not actually trying to do good at this stage in his life. It’s a testament to the power of his wealth that you think otherwise.
Then you are a fool if that's the only thing different. Here, have a read: https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeswealthteam/2023/01/23/americas-top-givers-2023-the-25-most-philanthropic-billionaires/
The Gated foundation is a PR and lobbying machine that’s clearly done its job in your case.
Your comment is irrelevant to what I'm saying. Try to actually offer something of value instead of baseless nonsense.
While there are legitimate criticisms of the guy, particularly his lack of support for the Chinese and Korean struggles, they're entirely negated by how well 1917 and WWII turned out given the circumstances.
Though I'm sure you wish they turned out differently.
Like hell they are.
I do not have sufficient historical context to form a strong opinion on his advice to the Communist Party of China that got them eviscerated in the 20s, and again in the 40s or the lack of support for Korea, and other mistakes, but I'm certain you have even less.
Dude killed way more people than Hitler my guy
Sure, if you attribute all the nazis killed in WWII, the soviets who died fighting those nazis, the children those nazis would have had if they didn't get owned, and throw in few million extra just for fun, you can come up with such numbers, that's what The Black Book of Communism did.
Victims Of Communism even includes deaths by covid.
"left leaning" in America means you are a conservative. Don't toe the line. State plainly what you stand for.
I want Full Communism Now. As an American I believe private ownership of almost all corporations should be abolished, and airlines, railroads, car company's and the agricultural Sector should be immediately Nationalized, with the current executives and share holders wealth seized.
So I reiterate, shut the fuck up liberal.
I'm not American, I'm in another country...
But yes, full communism is insane. I am not interested in creating worse systems that are fundamentally broken. I honestly don't know if you're trolling or just uneducated, but have you not seen Russia? Because that is what happens with communism.
No, it's not that they failed to implement it, it's because it's a fundamentally flawed system that always fails.