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When people are way too smug about their wrong answer.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I mean they're not entirely wrong, fighting slavery was a political tool not a moral imperative as it should have been and Lincoln didn't in fact want to unilaterally shut it down he wanted the nation to figure it out ideally without violence.

Ed: books people, I'm not interpreting anything Lincoln was extremely vocal about it. Listen to Lincoln, he knows Lincoln weirdly enough.

https://www.nps.gov/liho/learn/historyculture/slavery.htm

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It was a moral imperative for much of the North. Lincoln only barely scraped out the Republican nomination. His main opponent was William Seward who was a "radical" abolitionist. Had Seward won the nomination, there may have been some fracturing of the newly formed Republican party. So while there was indeed a portion of the population who felt the complete abolition of slavery was too far, a huge chunk agreed with Seward. In particular, his own wife, Francis Seward. She abhorred slavery and I urge everyone to read her writings upon the subject.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You're part of the problem when you give "but ackshually" cover to them to continue this nonsense

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Yes yes, history is nuanced but your actually a Nazi if you recognize that fact....

You see the problem there boss?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

History is nuanced, yes. Lost Cause bullshit and slavery apologists can GTFO tho. They're not arguing in good faith so when you chime in to let everyone know how smart you are by supporting that nonsense, you know what it looks like, right?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Bro it's factually correct, you can read Lincoln's diary discussing it. The statement "the civil war was about slavery" isn't wrong it just lacking nuance in the same way the statement I added to was.

Resolutions upon the subject of domestic slavery having passed both branches of the General Assembly at its present session, the undersigned hereby protest against the passage of the same.

They believe that the institution of slavery is founded on both injustice and bad policy; but that the promulgation of abolition doctrines tends rather to increase than to abate its evils.

They believe that the Congress of the United States has no power, under the constitution, to interfere with the institution of slavery in the different States.

They believe that the Congress of the United States has the power, under the constitution, to abolish slavery in the District of Columbia; but that that power ought not to be exercised unless at the request of the people of said District.

The difference between these opinions and those contained in the said resolutions, is their reason for entering this protest."

Dan Stone, A. Lincoln, Representatives from the county of Sangamon

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Dude, you think if chattel slavery never existed in the South that there still would have been a civil war?

The civil war was 100% about slavery.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Please quote me on that one boss.

Please refer to where I said it wasn't.