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NATO and the people behind it profit on war, they don't want peace they don't want justice they want money and power look at how they support the genocide in gaza. Fight for freedom, not for russia not for nato not for any corrupted government or dictator
That's some wild conspiracy you have there
They are backing israel who is committing a genocide right now, is this a conspiracy?
The US (and the West) support to Israel is despicable, everyone on lemmy with more than two braincells seems to agree.
That by itself does not mean that NATO is seeking war.
If you support a genocide you are evil, if they fuel the war there they indeed support war and not peace.
Look, I feel dirty defending what's going on but you can't just look at what is going on like a 13 years old and decide who is good and bad. Someone needs to explain some nuances. And nato has little to do with all of this.
Potus is stuck with Zionist organisations at home that hold a huge amount of power. In an election year. Is he an asshole? Absolutely, but he has little room for manuevering.
The whole world reacted to Oct 7 walking on egg shells. Say something bad against Israel and you are an antisemite. Of course head's of state and defence ministers all condemned what happened and dont want to be the bad guys saying something about poor Israel. It's slowly getting better, as it becomes more and more obvious that Israel are the bad psychopath guys, more and more UN countries are backing up a cease fire and resolutions against Israel.
What do nato and Ronald McDonald have to do with this? Fuck all. Are they evil and against peace? Only eggplants know
Oh yes you can and everyone should, 13 years old kids aren't brainwashed as much as adults and are still able to see things for what they are, borders and confines are invisible lines draw on a map all humans are equals. A 13 years old kid would never mass murder his peers.
If there's one thing 13 years old actually lack is a lot of history knowledge. Israel goverment has been doing this shit for decades with the full support of both the west and russia. You seem to be stuck in the idea that your rulers are good and care about you or other people, they don't, they care about profits and power look at what they do.
Edgy. Enough phone time for today, time to do your homework.
Not as edgy as someone defending evil
True.
False. Capitalism makes even more money during peace time.
True, but peace gives much more money and power than war. War gets in the way of making money and spreading influence. War is a dull knife. Peace is a scalpel. Both cut, but the amount of effort and resulting cut with the dull knife of war is a much worse result than an incredibly fine slice from a precision surgical instrument.
Russia is almost as far away from Freedom as you can get these days.
You seem to not understand how profits works. They are not collective, politicians do not care if you or me get rich they care about their own wallet which get boosted the moment they can sign a deal and sell more weapons. Money are only a vehicle for wealth and power: if everyone has the same amount of money then nobody is rich anymore, people become richer when they have more than others. Wars empower states and politicians more than anything else, they make their authority raise during wars not during peace.
I don't think you understand how it works. With war, you can only sell weapons and perhaps bare necessities of life like basic food, basic clothing, basic medicine, and basic shelter.
In peace you can sell luxury cars, exotic cuisine, movies, music, theater, art, Formula 1 tickets, cruise ship terminals, industrial gas infrastructure, cement, roads, boob jobs, gold watches, higher education services, ChatGPT, luxury houses, yachts, video games, coca-cola, porn, Disney world, high speed rail, anime, private jets, and so much more. If you're in war, you're not a customer for any of that stuff. You don't think politicians get rich of this stuff and they only do on weapons? They are much more creative than that for their graft.
If you think war is more profitable that peace for capitalism I'd recommend picking up some history and economics book. Look up the explosive growth during:
You should recommend these reads to politicians and rulers waging war. Can you please name one USA or Russia ceo that didn't bomb another country?
@index Ukrainians ARE already fighting for freedom!!!
@0x815
Same of them are for sure but remember that ukrainian government is currently an authoritarian regime that won't let any male between 18 and 60 leave the country, this has been going on for over 2 years.
@index that's not what authoritarian means.
Males between 18 and 60 will get arrested and put in prison by authorities if they try to leave the country
@index It's a martial law. It sucks, but it just is what it is. Were you also this angry when flights were cut during the pandemic and people were not allowed to leave their house for 14 days when traveling?
Tell me rather how drafting and sending people to the frontline to die for Kremlin in foreign countries if they try to flee Russia is not authoritarianism.
Yes it is what it is: dictatorship. You can fight for freedom and still allow others to go where they want
Why wouldn't one be angry with it? Were you ok with china locking people inside their houses for months?
It is indeed authoritarianism now you tell me how russian and ukrainian martial law are different
@index
I see, other countries were not locking people and were free to pass the disease away
Just take a look at each country's president, see how many terms each of them has got so far, see whose country attacked whose, and you'll figure out if that martial law is legally imposed due to an actual state of emergency, or if it's only a means to gain absolute power.
They are both corrupted and the ceos of a corrupted country, you can just take a look at wikipedia.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/25/world/europe/cia-ukraine-intelligence-russia-war.html
@index @petrescatraian
The same regulation was in place under Churchill during WW II. No elections took place. I suppose he was just another despot.
They probably were
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winston_Churchill#Imperialism_and_racial_views
Russia fought the nazi too during WWII under stalin totalitarism.
Rulers seek power and will use everything they can to get more