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In my book a phone number is not "vast amounts of metadata" but I see your point. Again, I have never seen someone describing Signal as a “paragon of privacy and security” 9usually it's presented as an improvement over SMS) but if they do I will put on my Trilby and correct them.
It's the volumes of phone numbers collected collectively that constitute vast amounts of metadata. Meanwhile, I've seen plenty of people advocate using Signal as the best option for privacy. And any time there is a criticism of Signal then then brigades of people inexplicably appear to vigorously defend it.
Because it is the gold standard, and recognized by many as much.
Allow me to explain: by making people feel unsafe using it, you are actually making them less safe.
thank you for providing a concrete example of the nonsense I'm referring to. The only ones who make people less safe are the ones who blindly advocate for a platform while ignoring real and tangible problems associated with it. Signal users are a cult.
Thank you for continuing to not put forward any sort of legitimate retort and responding only with insults instead. Super helpful.
What possible legitimate retort is there to give to some body using ad populum fallacy as a form of argument.
How about literally any form of evidence?
Evidence of what?
What's funny is this is pretty out in the open, and ppl don't realize it. When Yasha Levine criticized signal, the president of Radio Free Asia (a US government propaganda org), sent this out, openly pushing Signal to european internet freedom communities:
And I remember you mentioned before, Meredith Whittaker, president of the Signal Foundation, holds interviews with US defense-department think tanks.