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[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

The democrats did this to all of us. When you facilitate genocide for over two years, while calling the people protesting it violent antisemites, you lower voter turnout.

When you get elected by people who need healthcare, housing, and student loan relief, and you end covid protections, you lower voter turnout.

When you get elected by people expecting police reform and freeing the immigrant camps, and you increase deportations and endorse diverting covid funds to police budgets, you lower voter turnout.

When you get elected by promising to protect abortion, and then do fuckall even after the SCOTUS leaks their ruling early, you lower voter turnout.

Nobody except for the democrats had the power to change the outcome of this election. They had to chose between overwhelmingly popular policy and losing, and they chose to lose.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

if you don't vote, you lose any right to complain about anything. non voters whinging about this can go fuck themselves

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

This is a system with predictable effects. Blaming individual voters and assuring the DNC they learned their lesson and will vote next time does not increase voter turnout.

Our only hope within the democratic party is to support progressives and demonstrate that they do not have a conceivable path to victory if they don't do what the base wants. Every bluemaga who spent 2 years shutting down any criticism helped the DNC maintain the delusion that they could win without doing what the base wants.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Why would yhe DNC run candidates for a base that didnt show up? Even if they would do better, and I think they would, what makes you think that what the dullards at the DNC will think

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Why would yhe DNC run candidates for a base that didnt show up?

As opposed to tailoring all of their messaging and policy to appeal to "moderate" republicans, who voted Trump anyway, just like what happened in 2022 and 2016 and 2010?

The base shows up when you do what we want. Republicans do not show up and vote dem when you do what they want.

The point of left policy is that it directly helps everyone, except for the billionaires and corporations. Hell even republicans can be reached with free healthcare in a way that the democrats trying to be diet-fascists can't.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

You and I see that, but does the DNC see jt? Cuz staying home sure doesnt seem to be driving the message

[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

Staying home isn't a tactic, it's the expected, predictable effect of the DNC's actions, telling the "vote blue no matter who" crowd to shut the fuck up so the DNC can't delude themselves into thinking they have a path to victory that doesn't consist of "promise progressive policy, then use every single means at your disposal to enact an uncompromised universal version of it, even if it violates norms, courts, or any other bullshit we see republicans use".