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Man who set fires inside Calgary's municipal building lost testicle during arrest: ASIRT
(calgary.ctvnews.ca)
this post was submitted on 13 Dec 2024
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As always, ACAB.
What would you have them do differently here? Just wait patiently for the building to burn down? Wait until the man escapes the scene and threatens the public with a machete?
Maybe not aim for the balls.
I would be shocked if their aim was that specific.
If they had a half hour to use the guy for target practice, they could have used that time to talk him down instead.
Or does that make too much sense?
They were attempting to talk him down throughout the entire engagement. They don't just shoot nonlethal without giving instructions. They also warn saying things like "drop the machete or you will be tazed/bean bagged/pepperballed." Eventually he did drop the machete, and the pain from nonlethal may have contributed to that. I'd rather the suspect be in pain than be shot to death.
If the suspect was still inside the burning building, there was likely a sense of urgency to get him out before smoke inhalation, high heat, or building collapse became a significant threat to his life.
According to the article the only thing they cops said/yelled to the guy was to drop the weapon.
And a "sense of urgency" to get the guy out of the building would preclude the cops from spending 35 minutes using him as target practice.
If you read the police report linked in the article, the suspect refused to drop the machete and asked police to shoot him. The suspect was escalting the situation and actively resisting police while in the burning building.
Sorry, I learned long ago to the take "police reports" with a pound of salt. As far as I'm concerned those are not a trusted source for facts.
If they released the body camera footage, that's a different story. But they didn't, did they?
Yeah, that's basically the first edition of their legal defence.
Assuming that the police report is always wrong is just as bad as assuming that it's always right. I don't think there's any question in this case that the suspect was committing arsonβthe presence or absence of fire damage would have been hard to hide from the public. Arson is a pretty serious crime that might have endangered innocent bystanders if the fires had spread sufficiently. Was he really brandishing a machete at the police? I can't say for sure, but it isn't implausible. Was the force used to bring him in disproportionate? Maybe, but I find it difficult to believe that anyone was aiming at this guy's testicles on purpose. They're just not a very good target.
This isn't like the cases of someone being seriously injured or killed during a "wellness check" or for standing on a street corner while Indigenous. In the absence of any other information, I'd say that the injuries that the suspect suffered here really weren't intentional and a misaimed plastic bullet ricocheted into his crotch. If you want a flagship case for demonstrating police brutality to the public, I wouldn't pick this one.
"When I was nine I learned a lesson from Cube and Easy E. What was it again? Oh yea....Fuck the police."