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[–] [email protected] 3 points 8 months ago (2 children)
  • Server - Desktop Tower

    • Build - Intel server board & CPU based on old serverbuild naskiller guide
      • OS on SSD
      • ZFS ON 8 6TB DRIVES, YIELDING ~36TB of storage, recoverable with up to two failed drives
    • Runs (via docker)
      • Navidrome (webui used daily @ work, dsub on phone, feishin on desktop)
      • Jellyfin (used almost exclusively locally on my TV, occasionally to watch with friends on web)
      • Nextcloud (used occasionally, mostly backs up password files, etc or to share. Thinking about replacing.)
      • QBitTorrent with glutun VPN
      • Audiobookshelf - used frequently for audiobooks. Occasionally for podcasts. Often more convenient to use antennapod/pocket casts on phone for active podcasts)
      • Kavitas - used seldom. Thinking about stopping. I like using obps on my rooted kindle to access my library.
      • Changedetection.io -watch some sites for new products, etc
      • Kiwix (local wikipedia copy I use shortcuts in FF locally to search for things)
      • Homepage (local links I use on local machines to my services)
  • Raspberry pi

    • Adguard home & unbound - block most garbage for any traffic from my home

Thoughts - I'm considering downsizing. I don't really need all that much space, and it can be a headache at times. With drive replacement costs on top of power (~$320 a year) I consider either going to a vps or downsizing to what could run on a small compute like the n100 or a raspberry pi5, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Which vpn provider do you use for torrents?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago

Proton, some of their paid exit nodes support P2P

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Look for 5W idle consumption boards + CPU combos which go down to package C6+ state. HardwareLuxx has a spreadsheet with various builds focusing on low power. Sell half your disks, go mirror or Raidz1. Invest the difference in off-site vps and or backup. Storage on any SBC is a big pain and you will hit the sata connector / IO limits very soon.

The small NUC form factors are also fine, but if your problem is power you can go very low with a good approach and the right parts. And you'll make up for any new investments within the first year.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Thanks! I need to look more into what the power implications of 8 drives is - they never spin down, so I assume they are a non-trivial portion of my power consumption.

That said, I've been considering upgrading to something recent and low power anyways. It would be a good opportunity to sneak in some useful features too,

  • Maybe the possibility of transcoding a video stream
  • USB3 (not a huge deal)
  • Non VGA display (useful, for when connection issues arise)
  • Audio jack (I could use navidrome jukebox mode!)

Which the old hardware wouldn't support without adapters, cards, etc.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Responding to myself...

Datasheet reports 7.05 idle watts (~11w at active random read) so depending on what it considers idle, it'd be 8*7.05|11= 56.4:88W

Server clocks in at ~102W. Halving the drives would reduce the power by 27 : 43%

And in theory other components (motherboard, CPU...) must be using anywhere from (102-88) :(102-56.4)= 14 : 45.6 W.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago

Oh okay that's a lot of power. For reference, I just set up an old Haswell PC as a NAS, idling at 25W (can't get to low Package C states) and usually at 28-30 running light workloads on an SSD pool. My plan was to add a 5 disk cage and at least 3 HDDs, with Raidz2 and 5 disks being the mid term goal. Absolutely unnecessary and a huge waste. I settled on less but larger disks, and in mirror I can get 12-18 TB usable space for under 500€. Less noise and power draw too.