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Edit: to clarify: the message in the ad is actually ironic/satirical, mocking the advice for cyclists to wear high-viz at night.

It uses the same logic but inverts the parts and responsabilities, by suggesting to motorists (not cyclists) to apply bright paint on their cars.

So this ad is not pro or against high-viz, it's against victim blaming

Cross-posted from: https://mastodon.uno/users/rivoluzioneurbanamobilita/statuses/113544508246569296

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[–] [email protected] -2 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

You're missing the point.

Its saying not killing cyclists is the job of the people who would be killing cyclists. Its saying operating dangerous heavy machinery is a privilege and it comes with responsibilities. A cyclist us never to blame for a car hitting a cyclist. It is always always always the drivers fault, because they chose to drive a car.

In my opinion a much too common privilege with responsibilities we dont take near seriously enough.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

A cyclist us never to blame for a car hitting a cyclist. It is always always always the drivers fault, because they chose to drive a car.

That's an insane take, right? If I as a cyclist blindly ride across a road directly in front of a heavy vehicle, surely it's on me. In what way would that be the heavy vehicle drivers fault?

[–] [email protected] -2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If my lover breaks my jaw in anger, thats not my fault.

Under no conditions is that my fault, and youre a terrible person if you say it is.

If an adult beats the shit out of a young child, that is, in no circumstance, the child's fault. Youre a terrible fucking person if you say it is.

You can say its not the abusive parent's fault and blame structural issues or whatever, and maybe thats fair sometimes, but still pretty suspicious.

This is like that. Cars are violent, they are inefficient, and they are a choice. You choose to (statistically) sacrifice innocents every time you get behind the wheel. Everything you do while driving is on you. Or possibly the civil engineers and lawmakers who created the situation. Do not blame the victim. The victim is not at fault for having been hurt, for cracking your windshield and stealing bits of safety glass with their face. Under no conditions is a victim at fault. You are at fault for hurting them.

Unless they hacked your car and remotely piloted it to kill them in some sort of elaborate suicide/frame-up, and you literally did not have control of the vehicle. In which case I'd still put some of the responsibility on you, because you put the weapon where they could get it, loaded it, and got in.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Again, insane comparisons, driving a heavy vehicle is in no way similar to intentionally assaulting someone. A more appropriate comparison might be if your lover was punching a punching bag and you dove in front of it mid hard swing, and they had no time to avoid hitting you. Is that your fault or theirs?

If a cyclist runs over a child, who was not visible at all until they ran into their path with no time to stop, on a path designated for bicycles where a pedestrian has no right to be, is the cyclist at fault?

Anyway I think I might be responding to a crazy person, so I'm probably wasting my time, but I'm interested in how deep it goes.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 10 minutes ago* (last edited 9 minutes ago)

More like shooting a gun into a dark room. Maybe it's empty. Maybe you're a murderer.

Can't see, dont drive.