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The Kremlin strongman spoke out after a day of frayed nerves, with Russia test-firing a new generation intermediate-range missile at Ukraine -- which Putin hinted was capable of unleashing a nuclear payload. Ukraine's President Volodymyr Zelensky branded the strike a major ramping up of the "scale and brutality" of the war by a "crazy neighbour", while Kyiv's main backer the United States said that Russia was to blame for escalating the conflict "at every turn".

Intermediate-range missiles typically have a reach of up to 5,500 kilometres (3,400 miles) -- enough to make good on Putin's threat of striking the West.

In a defiant address to the nation, Russia's president railed at Ukraine's allies granting permission for Kyiv to use Western-supplied weapons to strike targets on Russian territory, warning of retaliation. In recent days Ukraine has fired US and UK-supplied missiles at Russian territory for the first time, escalating already sky-high tensions in the brutal nearly three-year-long conflict.

"We consider ourselves entitled to use our weapons against the military facilities of those countries that allow their weapons to be used against our facilities," Putin said. He said the US-sent Army Tactical Missile System (ATACMS) and British Storm Shadow payloads were shot down by Moscow's air defences, adding: "The goals that the enemy obviously set were not achieved".

Kremlin spokesman Dmitri Peskov did however say Moscow informed Washington of the missile's launch half an hour before it was fired through an automatic nuclear de-escalation hotline, in remarks cited in state media. He earlier said Russia was doing everything to avoid an atomic conflict, having updated its nuclear doctrine this week. White House spokeswoman Karine Jean-Pierre told reporters that Washington saw no need to modify the United States' own nuclear posture in response.

Criticising the global response to the strike -- "final proof that Russia definitely does not want peace" -- Zelensky warned that other countries could become targets for Putin too. "It is necessary to urge Russia to a true peace, which is possible only through force," the Ukrainian leader said in his evening address. "Otherwise, there will be relentless Russian strikes, threats and destabilisation, and not only against Ukraine."

The spokesman for UN Secretary-General Antonio Guterres, Stephane Dujarric, said the new missile's deployment was "another concerning and worrying development," warning the war was "going in the wrong direction". Yet a US official played down the threat, saying on condition of anonymity that Russia "likely possesses only a handful of these" experimental missiles.

Russia's envoy to London on Thursday said that meant Britain was "now directly involved" in the Ukraine war, with Andrei Kelin telling Sky News "this firing cannot happen" without UK and NATO support. But the White House's Jean-Pierre countered that it was Russia who was behind the rising tensions, pointing to the reported deployment of thousands of North Korean troops to help Moscow fight off a Ukrainian offensive in Russia's border Kursk region.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 month ago (2 children)

US nukes are MUCH closer to Russia. Try Belgium, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, and Turkey, they all host US nukes

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah I agree. That is also kinda my only issue with the whole "doomsday day prepping for an emp attack" thing: they say if done correctly it could take out all electronics in the north American hemisphere... breeeezing over the fact we'd still have electricity the whole time it is launched to shoot the fuckin thing(s) out of the air lol.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The west also has a secure second strike capability in the form of atomar subs.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Like they fire first we shoot it out of the air second strike? Or they strike and wipe out all electronics in America and we send carrier pigeons strapped with nukes as our second strike? Lol obviously kidding with those questions but really, are you talking about defensive strike to prevent domestic damages or are you saying second strike like they launch we launch? Cuz only one of those scenarios should work.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Second strike refers to being able to still destroy your attacker after your land has been destroyed. It’s basically what keeps balance. It doesn’t matter that much how many nukes you hav, but whether you’ll be able to deploy them regardless of what your enemy did first.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Right on. That's what I was going back and forth on with the whole doomsday prepping for a nuclear EMP. Whether or not one could actually reach us before we shot it down. Also if we took a hit on US soil and it successfully wiped out all electronics, whether or not we would have enough boots on the ground abroad to do anything or if the whole military complex would be too crippled to even actually respond. I watched the new red dawn couple days ago so I think I've been looking at it all thru the lens of Hollywood and how a ww3 would play out.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I.e. Putin likely wouldn't be alive to see the fruits of his labor, he'd be glass before his landed.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

As much as I dislike America’s warmongering, our atomic subs could probably nuke every major city in every country that was a part of trying to destroy America. M.A.D.