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i can't even guess as to why they went quiet. not one guess at all. we will never know.

edit: well they're not quiet now once they get called out

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (16 children)

Can you tell me what my vote for Harris did? I got to vote for "less genocide" and get "more genocide". Clearly, it was very important for Harris to keep out Palestinian- and Arab-Americans in swing states and bring in Republicans. Can you help me understand how that was supposed to win the most important election of all time where Republicans are planning on genociding everyone not them?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago (15 children)

At least you tried, if you really did vote for Harris. That's more than most vocal "anti-genocide" types did to prevent this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (13 children)

I'm sure that will be of great comfort to me watching the Democratic party continue to capitulate to the Right over the next four years.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

A couple of things... First, this is where you are different than them. You will actually feel it when Trump escalates the genocide in Palestine. Those other people that were pushing people to not vote, don't give a shit. That already separates you from those people.

Second, this is just based on my own personal understanding of fascism, and history, but I have a feeling that you are going to be nothing but disappointed with the Democrats moving forward. Because they will be controlled opposition. Assuming they continue to exist at all.

They will exist as props to get nothing done, and become scapegoats for every problem the Republicans cause. So get used to that feeling. We are going to have much bigger things to worry about than political parties (assuming more than one exists).

Third, to answer your original question, Harris had a very thin line to walk with regards to the topic of Israel/Palestine. I'm not sure if you are aware of the extent of the influence that AIPAC and the rest of the Israel lobby has on US politics (every side, does not matter), but it's extreme. Just look at what happened to Ilhan Omar when she dared to mention the $$ involved in their lobby. And it has just gotten worse since then.

If Harris had come out in favor of ending the genocide, AIPAC would have ratfucked her and she would have lost. I think the fact that she signaled support for Muslims a day or two Election Day confirms this. It was the only way she could do it that wouldn't give AIPAC enough time to completely blow up her campaign.

There was nothing she could have done, so she tried not to talk about it.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 22 hours ago

I have people that I'm working with on the local scene who could not bring themselves to vote for Harris, even with how awful they knew Trump to be. I was able to vote, but I understand why they could and know that they still get out and do the work

Being disappointed by Democrats is unfortunately nothing new for me. Two decades of it under my belt so far.

Yeah, and what they've been doing to Rashida Tlaib has been sickening me. I have so much respect for what she's been doing, and seeing the Democratic Party trying to villainize her and her constituents has been disheartening.

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