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[–] [email protected] 0 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Council housing in Britain between the 50s and privatization, not only did the price of the entire market remain affordable because of the competition but the quality vastly improved given the need for any private developer to do better than the government with its massive economies of scale, near free land, and effectively no taxes on itself.

If you have long waitlists, you by definition do not have enough public housing to meet demand, and need to make more. We wouldn’t say schools didn’t work because look, our town only has enough space in its public school to admit half the towns children, guess it’s just a lottery and we should shut it down.

Real estate, building apartments, this is an immensely profitable industry, and its absurd to assume that it suddenly not only becomes unprofitable but is a massive tax burden just because the government is developing the land and not a billionaire doing near the same thing but walking away with an absurd profit skimmed off the top.

At least not unless the government is so obsessed with the free market that it is just renting existing apartments instead of the normal method of developing a new complex with a bunch of apartments, using most as cheap public housing for people who need assistance and renting the rest out at market rate to cover the cost of the project.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 12 hours ago

Vienna has something like 40% of all units as public housing, and decade waitlists where you have to already live in the city to be eligible to be on the lists. Singapore is closer to 90% and still has waitlists, requiring you to get married to get priority and even that can take a couple years.

How exactly does your proposal somehow fix that situation?

I've seen no situation in which building public housing of any amount becomes anything but a lottery for the poor, and here especially with all the land already privately owned it would be prohibitively expensive to get to even 10% public housing, let alone the larger amounts seen in some of these other places.

No, the real answer lies with crashing house prices directly. It's just a Band-Aid we're going to have to rip off at some point, and it's going to fucking hurt.