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Over the past few years I've gotten a small handheld blade grinder, an Aeropress, a French Press, and started roasting my own beans.

The problem is that while some changes stick (like the grinder and the bean roasting), some changes just take up space (I usually use my Mr. Coffee over the Aeropress or French Press).

With that in mind, I'm looking for an espresso maker that is low budget, since I may not use it that often; but is still nice enough that I'm not going to hate espresso making because the machine is bad (ie: low pressure, low heat, leaks, etc).

Most espresso makers I've seen are a few hundred to a thousand USD; but since I'm worried I may end up almost never using it (or just using it to froth hot chocolate), I'm looking for one that's around 100 USD or less.

While I expect you all have loftier targets for your espresso machines than that, I am hopeful if you don't have any specific recommendations you can tell me what signs to look for that an espresso machine is of decent quality.

EDIT:

As you may have gathered I'm hardly an expert on coffee matters, so I really appreciate your help.

It sounds like for the time being I should stick with the Aeropress I already have and maybe upgrade to a Mokapot (or even a medium range espresso maker) down the line if I really take to it.

For what it's worth, I did watch the recommended James Hoffman video and was able to make a decent (to me) cappuccino using the Aeropress and French Press I already had on hand!

Thanks again for all your help!

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[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 month ago (2 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago

I have a cheap espresso machine (Princess) and a moka pot, so I can compare them easily.

The cheap machine can make some sort of espresso, and it can make hot milk foam. Microfoam seems to be impossible, so you can forget about doing latte art.

The moka pot can make strong coffee, but it’s not as strong as espresso, unless you use it in a very particular way. Here’s how: use the Hoffman method, but cut it short. You need to stop extracting a little bit before you actually run out of water. Also the flow rate should be as low as possible to give the extraction enough time.

If you do that, a moka pot can make strong coffee that is so close to what I can make with my cheap espresso machine that I can’t tell the difference. However, pulling it off requires patience and skill.

Since the cheap espresso machine can’t make nice foam, you might as well just use a moka pot and microwave the milk.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Seconding this. Moka pots are the classic Italian way for a reason. I keep a small one at home and it makes a lovely espresso.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'll skip the usual NPC monologue about how a moka pot does not make espresso, period, because the grind and pressure and process are completely different and that's OK... Well, damn, still monologued. 🤣

Anyway, I have a Bambino (which is the absolute low end of things I'd consider) and a moka pot, they're both fun and make decent coffee, but the moka pot is a lot more forgiving than the espresso machine. The amounts of time I got really bad coffee out of the moka pot vs out of the espresso machine are not even close.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Similar experience with the Bambino, although I think that with any expresso machine, you are going to toss out a few cups until you get good.