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Ah yes, the socialist party SMER is actually far right. 🤡
Oh yeah, I forgot calling oneself a socialist lifts any questions from the western leftists. You can be a corrupt nationalist government, have mafia kill jurnos, all is good.
Do name the right wing policies SMER promotes, I'll wait.
Just after you name any of their policies without googling it.
so can't actually name any, thanks for confirming
Ok, honestly I've got no patience to pretend that you don't simply support him for his alignment with Russia/China as if their was any different from US imperialism. He represents (half of) a country in which Moscow used tanks to put down a popular uprising, but is their uncritical servant. Same as his other buddies, stirring up far right talking points in favor of "fortress europe", against the backdrop of their Moscow handlers and their colony in Bealarus pushing out migrants into swamps and primal forests on the border with Poland and Finland in an attempt at creating a crisis.
We deal with this shit, find dead people in the swamps and bushes, and fight fascists stirred up by these migrations and openly supported by the same people who caused this. Meanwhile you get your edge-lord points for siding with something you consider leftist? or just admire their authoritarianism for whatever reason? I'm pretty sure I've encouraged you before; visit eastern Europe, or Russia and confront your imagination with the reality of what things are here.
And there it is, you're just upset that he wants to stop the war and that people might stop dying.
I haven't mentioned the war itself, I've only mentioned the Russia-manufactured border crisis where Belarusian services starve and force push out people onto the Polish border. That's what you're cheering for; using helpless people as meat to throw in a geopolitical grinder.
If you want to have an idea of how it looks there's a movie our last regime attempted to silence; Zielona Granica / Green Border. Feel free to drop the feel-good ending - there's none - nowdays, with the new cheerfully liberal regime the activists cant even reach the border anymore as it's all a militarized zone with hot rounds fired.
But on the issue of war - allowing an empire to size territory is not stopping the war, it's repeating the failed concept of appeasement towards a regime openly discussing it's imperialist aspirations (and history of long and brutal occupation of the entire region). Anti-imperialist struggles are only good if they are against US, and Slavs don't deserve their rights to self determination?
Nah, the concept of appeasement doesn't apply here because the nature of the war is security competition between Russia and NATO with NATO having been the aggressor encroaching on Russian border while engaging in violent invasions of states like Yugoslavia and regime change operations including violent coup in Ukraine. You can stop lying about the causes of the war because the chief of NATO already admitted the real reason in plain terms:
Now, it's obvious to anybody with even a minimally functioning brain that Russia has won the war, and the US will leave Europe out to dry. You warmongers deserve everything that's coming to you.
So you're just gloss over the issue of using "тёмненький" ("darkies") as meat cuz you don't have a pre-set propaganda excuse for it, or what?
And yeah, of course every bully has to defend themself, Germany was threatened by the Jew and had to fight it's 'existential' fight for liberty from their control... Still, you're apparently so deep into hatred of Slavs you want us to be subjected, is all.
Poland is like one of the most racist countries on this planet. Take a seat there maybe bud. It's frankly embarrassing.
I could name a few worse ones, it's not Moscow, where dark-skinned people got killed on a daily basis, but I'd agree it's one of the more racist. You're lecturing someone who literally leads people against 50-100k strong fascists marches, but thank you for west-splaining our situation. We Slav stupid, we not know if not western left messiah.
Wait so you claim to be left and somehow oppose partnership with China? How am I to understand this?
Yes, one can be leftist and anti-authoritarian. I dont believe state capitalism is the solution.
Oh I see so what is the alternative offered to Slovaks then?
keep deflecting clown
If only you could deal with the facts, it'd be an interesting discussion, but best you can pull is childish negation of anything that could shake up your poorly educated opinions. Afraid your western-individualist petite bourgeoisie 'personality' will be ruined by confronting reality?
Oh I am dealing with facts. Russia is aligned with the global majority against the racist colonial west. Afraid your western-individualist petite bourgeoisie ‘personality’ will be ruined by confronting reality?
OK, so what about sponsoring neonazis?
Interesting policy of wreaking destruction upon every "regime" that doesn't align with your hypocritically professed values, irrespective of the history of the country and how the group you want wiped out came to power in the first place.
There is a problem though, that your wish to isolate these states from diplomacy and trade does nothing more than create stripped-down capitalist states, at the mercy of London and Wall St. and their blob, the conditions and the political influences that produce these "left" and "right" neoliberal parties (for neocons are a variety of liberal, economically, despite your ahistorical use of the term). Your whole approach is mindlessly destructive and counterproductive.
The endgame of this strategy looks like Milei, like post-Gaddafi Libya. Your approach always results in starvation, rape, and murder of the population, and this collapse of society allows far right groups easy pickings.
You mean the way the west has been since 2014 in Ukraine?
Can't be bothered to look for a similar research for SMER, but when the party members of Polish SLD (Sojusz Lewicy Demokratycznej - same type of post-communist party) were studied they tended to be economically more liberal and socially more conservative then the local neo-cons, and that's quite an achievement, as these are basically air-dropped chicago-school of economy US made products.
Left wing ideologies have been destroyed in CEE by the soviet fallout. What's left* are parties cashing in on the nostalgia (/conservatism) and soft authoritarianism with a hint of social policies. By this account Polish PiS (Prawo i Sprawiedliwość) party is also nearly leftist - they had some populist social programs. None of these actually affect the situation of the neglected parts of society in the long term, but the cash giveaways secure the vote, and apparently support from some...
*Of course outside of mainstream there's tiny honest left, socialist or even communist groups, but that's nothing to do with what passes as the mainstream "left", most of which is to the right of western centrists.
go home fash
You could ask literally any active polish Antifa who I am, if actually meant anything more than an pitiful attempt at an insult.
Polish antifa have shown themselves to be about as anti-fascist as national socialists.
With what exactly? Your tanki friends getting a slap for breaking the terms they got for joining our action? I'd expect you of all people to understand following a set line and punishing dissenters.
You're blood thirsty war mongers who allied themselves with literal fascists.
You're siding with a regime that used neonazis to kill our comrades in front of it's goverment buildings, forced our Russian comrades to move from blunt weapons to firearms just to survive on the streets, supports crypto-fascist regimes, and openly finances French, German, Austrian, US neonazis, but claim we side with fascist? Hilarious. Maybe it's time you volunteer to 'Rusich', now officially a part of FSB?
Belarusian and Ukrainian refugees make up 1/4 of my city and half of the radical movement here. Like many of our comrades I've been traveling the region for over 20 years. Been to Moscow, been to deep Caucasian Russia, been to Ukraine a few times including the very areas that are now a battlefield and shared roof and drinks with comrades from other countries, who were now martyred there.
But still instead of hearing out someone who's committed their life to struggle, you're better educated based on something you've read on the internet. Nothing like a western colonial mindset over the experience of local, working people deciding to fight against oppression.
Their killers are now serving lifetime sentences with no chance for parole. And how were punished killers of our comrades Vadim Papura and Andrei Brazhevsky? There wasn't even proper investigation of their murder, and the regime which protects their killers is now actively supported by some shitheads pretending to be "antifa".
I remember those times very well as it was significant part of my early adulthood. The simple fact that some of those who fought for antifa at the time later decided to support the Nazi coup in 2014 does not change the simple truth that post-Maidan Ukraine is a neo-Nazi shithole, and these "antifa" (mostly, but not exclusively, from the Arsenal and MTZ-RIPO/Partizan fan bases) are nothing more than subcultural scum. Those of them who died fighting for this shit deserve no other honor than Darwin prize.
Now get fucked along with your friends and your "struggle".
The regime you ally yourself with is openly fascist. Period. You are a nazi lover.
In which policy exactly?
here's one https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aHWHqj8g7Bk
Help me out here. Someone describing reversing of the situation of his people is a nazi, but Russian state forcing that very situation on his people is anti-nazi? How does that work?
And as a side note what is this mans role in the administration? He holds any?
And how does that fare with Miedwiediew threatening half of Europe nuclear annihilation every few months? He chairs Security Council of the Russian Federation as far as I remmeber?
You're doing that whole whataboutism thing here. At best you can say both are bad, but you are actively supporting one side here. So, you have no moral high ground. You're just a nazi lover and you see Russians as the wrong nazis. It's hilarious how Europe keeps doing posturing and then acting all surprised that Russia is taking hostile stance towards them. You're such utter clowns, you should all get together and start a circus. Maybe that could be your new economic model.
You were meant to provide any proof of a actually fascist policy and the best you can come up with is an ex official with some generic threats in the middle of a war.
I dont see either side as nazis. Both sides obviously do use nazis, although on one side a Jew president sends them to die in the trenches and on the other a mafia oligarch sets them up in FSB and sponsors and enables them worldwide. Funny which one you consider nazis.
Still even as high on propaganda bullshit as you are you have to admit Russia is murdering Ukrainian children. If a threat of doing so is fascism, what is doing just that? Anti-fascism? How the fuck does that make any sense to you? How can that be equal to someone both murdering and attempting to terrorize the rest of the continent so they dont get seriously involved to stop the butchering of Ukrainians? How come Russia has the right to defend their interests beyond its border including sending troops, but no other country has such right? How is it threathened by Ukraine possibly joining NATO but was not when Finland joined? Particularly with that threathening the control over northern passage, not some easy to controll broad open fields? How do you even make any sense of this to yourself?
And if you do, following your bullshit logic - why wouldent say Poland, with 200 years of history of Russian occupation, forced assimilation, forced migration and straight up genocide by Russian empire, should not do anything in its power to stop a neighboring country from again falling to such a state? Same arguments you use would justify Polands invasion of Bealarus and thretening to nuke Moscow if they step up. You're to blinded to see the absurdity of your arguments and make a strawman of what you think I support, without at least reading what I clearly state, so cut your bullshit about whataboutism and moral high grounds Putin's fanboy. Western europe attempted to reson with Russian government, cut them deals and made their elites filthy rich while doing it, while most of the country still looks like a cyberpunk distopia and is ruled like any failed 3rd world dictatorship, which it now is.
"I feel threathened so I might vaporize you all unless you subdue to our imperialism" sounds like a underdog we should be cheering. You are beyond laughable.
My dude, there are mountains of evidence for actual fascist policies in Ukraine. I literally linked you Poroshenko openly talking about doing ethnic cleansing. Absolutely hilarious you'd be trying to pull Jewish president bullshit when Israel is conducting a genocide in Gaza. Maybe at least try to update the talking points you've memorized.
Still even as high on propaganda bullshit as you are you have to admit that the war could've been over in the first two months if the west didn't step in and stop negotiations. You scum are the ones actively doing everything you can to drag it out.
I can't wait till the US bails you lot and then we'll see how brave you all.
Yet you did not link to any. Random speech is not a policy, Poroshenko is not an Ukrainian official or a government member, as opposed to Miedwiedew who is and is threatening nuclear annihilation even to non-combatants, aside from aiding the kidnapping of Ukrainian children which is literally a form of genocide.
Any non-russian sources for that claim? And no, the war would not be over, you'd have guerilla war for decades. You understand nothing of Slavic mentality nor know nothing of the history of the region.
Oh, and what will we do without all the marvelous US help? Repeat history I guess...
I did, but you just keep ignoring it. However, since you keep insisting I'll link some more as was widely reported by western media. The fact that you keep pretending they don't exist shows that you're a liar.
And of course, then there are nazis running rampant in Ukraine including the highest levels of government
Plenty, even Nuland has admitted this just recently https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiS2dg_atfc
Ukrainian negotiators confirmed it https://www.aaronmate.net/p/ukraines-top-negotiator-confirms
Arestovich confirmed it it https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/1975okx/ua_pov_arestovich_in_english_says_he_and_the_rest/
A member of the negotiating team confirming this https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/11/24/7430282/
The fact that you don't know this shows what an utter ignoramus you are. I guess one has to be to ally himself with fascists.
Both my parents were born in Ukraine you sad troll, I think I understand Slavic mentality perfectly well. Something ignorant nazi boot lickers such as yourself will never understand.
There won't be any guerrilla war for decades because all the fascists you love so much have gone to die on the front already or fled the country. At this point the fascist regime you support is reduced to kidnapping people off the street and gang pressing them to fight.
Finally, let me educate you a bit on Ukraine since you're utterly clueless about it. It was cobbled together by USSR and eastern parts of Ukraine were part of Russia, and are inhabited by Russian speaking people who see themselves as Russian. Again, don't take my word for it. We can take a look at a few slides from this lecture that Mearsheimer gave back in 2015 to get a bit of background on the subject. Mearsheimer is certainly not pro Russian in any sense, and a proponent of US global hegemony. First, here's the demographic breakdown of Ukraine:
here's how the election in 2004 went:
this is the 2010 election:
As we can clearly see from the voting patterns in both elections, the country is divided exactly across the current line of conflict. Furthermore, a survey conducted in 2015 further shows that there is a sharp division between people of eastern and western Ukraine on which economic bloc they would rather belong to:
Ukraine is not some homogeneous blob, but a large country with complex cultural and ethnic situations. Most people outside western parts of Ukraine never wanted this war, and they just want the war to end. The way this all ends is that everything except the nationalist rump state will be absorbed into Russia and then Europe will be left to deal with the remaining far right nationalist who will feel betrayed by you lot, and who have been making contacts with fascists all across Europe this whole time, sending them all the weapons that disappeared. Enjoy what's coming to you.
None of this justfies invading another country, unless you want to justify invasion of Afghanistan or Iraq.
You don't have to justify all invasions to justify some invasions?