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[–] [email protected] 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

The Dems won many elections and still moved right. And yes, the Dems would get more right wing if they could get away with it.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I think they moved right, because they couldn't compete against trump, obama for example was a pretty good start if you ask me

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

They competed against Trump in 2020 and ran a more progressive campaign, and won. They competed against Trump in 2024 and ran a genocidal campaign that paraded around warmongers like Liz Cheney, and lost even the popular vote.

Obama is the premier example of a warmongering neoliberal that could perfectly orate for progressive voters despite his actual policy, both domestic and foreign.