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[–] [email protected] 8 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

People still watch Sub Optimal Gaming? His content is boring and he was a literal gamergater.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 9 months ago (1 children)

What does gamergater mean? I’m familiar with gate keeping but I don’t know that I’ve heard it like this.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (2 children)

I'm glad this has dropped off the public consciousness, but they were anyone who were on the side of the neo-fascist movement started after reddit banned rJailbait. Basically the early beta of what became the alt-right. There was a LOT of social pressure to either be for gamergate otherwise you were against it, and SOG tactilely sided with them during a time when a lot of people were starting to see it for what it was.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Gamergate started with "The Zoe Post", not the removal of jailbait.

"The Zoe Post" is a hit piece from an Ex-boyfriend of game developer Zoe Quinn that alleged that she slept with a notable game reviewer to get positive reviews for her game. Said reviewer never actually reviewed her game.

Please don't re-write the history of these events. Especially since jailbait had been removed for around a year when "The Zoe Post" dropped.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Every time. Gamergate never died, it's supporters just went into hiding.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

I stand against gamergate buddy.

Your timeline of events and triggers are off though.

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Timeline_of_Gamergate

I vividly remeber this time period and witnessing these events unfold live. I lost a good deal of people I considered friends at the time due to the misogyny that rose out.

You're right though, gamergate followers were radicalized by what we now know as the "Alt-right".

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Rationalwiki is not a good source. Like, at all. Do you really trust a bunch of "bestiality is OK" libertarians to have a good take on anything? Also I wouldn't be surprised if those were the same people who started gamergate as that's absolutely the propagandized timeline of gamergaters.

EDIT: Yeah i'm actually glad we had this conversation. I never would have made that connection on my own.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

TBH, I never dug into rational wiki. However the timeline is fairly accurate from what I watched what happened to my friends both in the game industry and my former friends that were gamers (hint, i worked in games when this shit was unfolding).

Unfortunately, no other "timeline" source exists, with Wikipedia starting its paragraphs of history with Zoe Quinn creating Depression Quest, and many many other articles starting there as well. Some people like to attribute a slightly earlier event of a handful of journalists critiquing gamers over their reactions to the Mass Effect 3 ending, but that doesn't really fit with how quickly things snowballed after "The Zoe Post".

[–] [email protected] 3 points 9 months ago

Interesting. I’ll have to dive deeper. Thanks!