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cross-posted from: https://lemmygrad.ml/post/6186705

And most importantly, who's gonna be our Hoxha?

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (11 children)

It’ll be over sex work

And we already have a Hoxha

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (4 children)

What are the respective positions on sex work?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ours is the Marxist position which seeks the complete abolition of prostitution and other forms of sexual exploitation including pornography. Their position is not that.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 6 days ago

And what's funny is, they have this whole meme over there from Matt Christmen about treats. About western imperial core liberals being concerned about access to treats and it's not untrue. But then they take this view of women that's essentially treat-based.

That is access to pornography is a treat for their largely while male base, access to prostitutes are a treat for their aforementioned base. So they seek out thinking on this, bad liberal feminism and choose that over Marxist feminism because it allows them to enjoy their sexual exploitation treats without feeling bad or needing to change or do self reflection. And it also allows some of those exploited to deceive and delude themselves into thinking they're not exploited which is also a compelling thing as who likes feeling like that? The common refrain of the exploited worker at the bottom is they're just working their way up, they have an angle they're going for, a side-hustle, they'll be out of here soon and it's a cope there and a cope from some of the apologists who've been involved in it here. Much as women lie to themselves about being sexually assaulted to avoid confronting the uncomfortable reality, there are those who lie about this form of sexual exploitation.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Writing on hexbear, if you don't want to get as many people jumping down your throat, it's good to use the term that is closer to technically accurate, "the porn industry," since exhibitionists do exist. That still doesn't cover it either because there are various sorts of exploitative porn production outside of "the porn industry" but if you err on the side of rejecting acceptable practices rather than accepting unacceptable ones, they'll call you a "SWERF" or a puritan or whatever happens to come to their mind at the moment.

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