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The people in cities and in blue states made this economic turn around happen. Trump does not deserve the credit he will claim. Burn it down.

Edit: If you leave this thread learning anything please let it be this one thing. Organic political movement isn't schemed up in a board room or carefully planned and executed every step of the way. It starts inside of you and people like you and you lend your support not knowing the outcome but believing in the cause. If it's not here, it's not here. I don't mean to supply you with fuel needed but only the spark to ignite flame waiting to be ignited.

I'm out though.

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[–] [email protected] 60 points 1 week ago (15 children)

There's no need.

Really.

If Trump does what he says he was going to do-and I don't doubt he will--then the economy will crash on its own.

Tariffs will raise prices, and will drive inflation. Why will tariffs raise prices? Because the people selling will just add the price of the tariff to the goods sold. And unless the tariffs are the result of a new law, any incoming president can cancel them. That means that it would be a very risky environment to try and build domestic production in. The place I work for uses aluminum extrusion; we get it from a domestic supplier, and they get all their raw aluminum stock from China. When tariffs were enacted on Chinese aluminum, our supplier passed the cost on to us, and we had to raise our prices to account for our increased costs. So our customers had to pay more to get exactly the same product.

Deporting all of the undocumented immigrants will mean that we'll suddenly have lots of jobs not getting done; most produce is picked by undocumented immigrants, a ton of general construction is done by undocumented immigrants, most meat-packing plants are full of undocumented immigrants laborers. We'll suddenly be a negative unemployment; there won't be enough workers in the workforce to fill demand. That means wages will have to rise, which will drive inflation, and housing costs will rise sharply because new construction will be so expensive with undocumented immigrants. One of the people I work with is undocumented; if he gets deported, then we're up shit creek, because no one else can do his job as efficiently as he can, if anyone can do it at all (yay, lean manufacturing...).

I would place a financial bet on the economy crashing if Trump actually does what he says he will.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Hey, wages rising would at least be nice.

...not going to happen though, more likely to see an increase in prison labour

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago

Wages rising? No.

Salaries rising? A little.

Executive pay and bonuses? Huge.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Maybe for some things, like working in fields. (Maybe. That would be a preeeeeettttttty good time for someone to pull a runner.) Probably not for construction, where you'd have to be giving inmates access to things that readily be used as weapons. Same with meat packing, where they'd literally be working with knives.

If people that are left of center can get their shit together some day, they really need to rewrite that amendment to ban all involuntary servitude.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Most inmates aren't actually dangerous, and can probably be trusted with a framing nailer. The percentage of harmless inmates will probably increase, as the Republican administration encourages laws that serve no purpose besides locking up black people and leftists, and clamps down on states that oppose them.

If you live in a legal weed state, start legally buying weed with the intent to stash it for the next 4 years. Stoners are gonna be a great source of prison labour

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