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[–] [email protected] 11 points 14 hours ago (7 children)

What about the lack of turnout for KH? Am I reading the results wrong ? Was there not massive amounts on non voters? As much as I hate republicans the fence setters an uninformed have fucked us all outside the US

[–] [email protected] 14 points 14 hours ago (6 children)

John Oliver's segment on Palestinians really cemented it for me: if your family was killed by a missile sold to them by Biden, it's really difficult to support his successor.

Sure you may not want the orange turd either.

But imagine the heartache of voting for the person related to the one who is responsible for the death of your family.

I know I can't. And a part of me feels for them.

What upset me the most is that Harris used Hilary's election plan verbatim. No one stopped to tell Harris that Clinton lost.

Sanders warned her that if she wants a good turn out, she needs to have a plan for the working class.

Instead she wasted weeks trying to get Republican endorsements instead of trying to shore up her base.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

I chose to vote for Harris despite this because Trump would be no better on this, so effectively the issue wasn't up for vote and I could only vote on the other issues that were different between them. But very bluntly, I don't blame Arabs and Muslims for not voting for Harris. They have one of the strongest grievances one could possibly have (i.e. second only to attacks directly on them personally, in the U.S.), and the dismissiveness from Biden (and Harris) was downright insulting.

A part of me does feel like Biden chose Israel over Americans. I don't know if changing course on this would have changed the election, and I guess it's impossible to truly know.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 hours ago

The problem for the Democrats is that the tent is very big. There are a lot of issues and a lot of people who care about very different things.

Gaza, unfortunately, was one of those. We had people who grit their teeth and voted Harris even though it was going to hurt them.

On the other side, Jewish zionists would have absolutely turned on Harris if she fully supported Palestine. Harris made a pragmatic choice to not alienate the zionists in the hopes that her opponent would be so toxic that Palestinians would see the lesser of two evils.

The really frustrating thing is Republicans don't have to run this kind of campaign. They can run a campaign on shit, fantasy, and rumor and their base will still show up and vote.

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