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Is Python's tooling incredibly difficult, or am I just stupid? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 1 week ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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So I'm no expert, but I have been a hobbyist C and Rust dev for a while now, and I've installed tons of programs from GitHub and whatnot that required manual compilation or other hoops to jump through, but I am constantly befuddled installing python apps. They seem to always need a very specific (often outdated) version of python, require a bunch of venv nonsense, googling gives tons of outdated info that no longer works, and generally seem incredibly not portable. As someone who doesn't work in python, it seems more obtuse than any other language's ecosystem. Why is it like this?

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[–] [email protected] 58 points 1 week ago (16 children)

It's something of a "14 competing standards" situation, but uv seems to be the nerd favourite these days.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (5 children)

This! Haven't used that one personally, but seeing how good ruff is I bet it's darn amazing, next best thing that I used has been PDM and Poetry, because Python's first party tooling has always been lackluster, no cohesive way to define a project and actually work it until relatively recently

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I bet it’s darn amazing,

It is. In this older article (by Anna-Lena Popkes) uv is still not in the middle, but I would claim it's the new King of Project Management, when it comes to Python.

uv init --name <some name> --package --app and you're off to the races.

Are you cloning a repo that's uv-enabled? Just uv sync and you're done!

Heck, you can now add dependencies to a script and just uv run --script script.py (IIRC) and you don't need to install anything - uv will take care of it all, including a needed Python version.

Only downside is that it's not 1.0 yet, so the API can change at any update. That is the last hurdle for me.

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